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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/uaccess: Use pointer masking to limit uaccess speculation
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 12:02:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200819170223.nmv7dekvpc5yk4rm@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVUgHHW=q3R9jQxU4JTf2m493FhOa3L-iQnHMcH7dgQFg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 09:39:10AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 7:50 AM Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> > +/*
> > + * Sanitize a uaccess pointer such that it becomes NULL if it's not a valid
> > + * user pointer.  This blocks speculative dereferences of user-controlled
> > + * pointers.
> > + */
> > +#define uaccess_mask_ptr(ptr) \
> > +       (__typeof__(ptr)) array_index_nospec((__force unsigned long)ptr, user_addr_max())
> > +
> 
> If I dug through all the macros correctly, this is generating a fairly
> complex pile of math to account for the fact that user_addr_max() is
> variable and that it's a nasty number.

The math is actually pretty simple.  It's identical to what getuser.S is
doing:

	cmp TASK_addr_limit(%_ASM_DX),%_ASM_AX
	sbb %_ASM_DX, %_ASM_DX
	and %_ASM_DX, %_ASM_AX

> But I don't think there's any particular need to use the real maximum
> user address here.  Allowing a mis-speculated user access to a
> non-canonical address or to the top guard page of the lower canonical
> region is harmless.  With current kernels, a sequence like:
> 
> if (likely((long)addr > 0) {
>   masked_addr = addr & 0x7FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUL;
> } else {
>   if (kernel fs) {
>     masked_addr = addr;
>   } else {
>     EFAULT;
>   }
> }

The masking has to be done without conditional branches, otherwise it
defeats the point.

> could plausibly be better.  But Christoph's series fixes this whole
> mess, and I think that this should be:
> 
> #define uaccess_mask_ptr(ptr) ((__typeof___(ptr)) (__force unsigned
> long)ptr & USER_ADDR_MASK))
> 
> where USER_ADDR_MASK is the appropriate value for 32-bit or 64-bit.

Yeah, we could do that.  Though in the meantime, the simple merge
conflict resolution with Christoph's patches would be
s/user_addr_max/TASK_SIZE_MAX/ in my uaccess_mask_ptr() macro.

-- 
Josh


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-19 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-19 14:50 [PATCH] x86/uaccess: Use pointer masking to limit uaccess speculation Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-19 16:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-19 17:02   ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2020-08-19 21:30     ` David Laight
2020-08-20  0:18     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-28 19:29 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-29 13:21   ` David Laight
2020-08-29 19:31     ` David Laight
2020-08-31 17:31       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-01  8:32         ` David Laight
2020-09-01 14:26           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-01 15:00             ` David Laight
2020-09-01 15:24               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-01 14:02 ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-01 14:21   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-01 14:52     ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-01 14:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-01 14:54     ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-01 15:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-01 15:46         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-02 11:43           ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-02 13:32             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-02 17:23               ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-03  6:56                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-04 16:00                   ` Mark Rutland

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