From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
dave@stgolabs.net, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Madhuparna Bhowmik <madhuparnabhowmik10@gmail.com>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)" <urezki@gmail.com>,
vineethrp@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 -rcu 1/4] rcu/segcblist: Do not depend on rcl->len to store the segcb len during merge
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 07:20:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200826142028.GN2855@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200825224723.GB579506@google.com>
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 06:47:23PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 01:08:09PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:48:39PM -0400, Joel Fernandes (Google) wrote:
> > > The donecbs's ->len field is used to store the total count of the segmented
> > > callback list's length. This ->len field is then added to the destination segcb
> > > list.
> > >
> > > However, this presents a problem for per-segment length counting which is added
> > > in a future patch. This future patch sets the rcl->len field as we move
> > > segments of callbacks between source and destination lists, thus becoming
> > > incompatible with the donecb's ->len field.
> >
> > OK, I will bite. What is "rcl"? A placeholder for donecbs and pendcbs?
> > If so, please just name them both. If not, please explain.
>
> Ok will fix.
>
> > > This commit therefore avoids depending on the ->len field in this way. IMHO,
> > > this is also less error-prone and is more accurate - the donecb's ->len field
> > > should be the length of the done segment and not just used as a temporarily
> > > variable.
> >
> > Please also mention why ->len is handled specially at all, namely
> > interactions between rcu_barrier() and callback invocation. This is
> > the answer to "why not just make all this work like normal lists?"
> > This might go well in the first paragraph.
>
> Are you referring to the cblist structures ->len? I know the segcblist's
> ->len field is what rcu_barrier() samples but I am not changing that behavior
> at all in this patch. This patch is only about the donecb's len (which is a
> cblist structure on the stack).
Yes, we agree. I am just suggesting that you call this out in the
commit log. It is probably not obvious to those who have not been
through the code yet. ;-)
> > > Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes (Google) <joel@joelfernandes.org>
> > > ---
> > > kernel/rcu/rcu_segcblist.c | 8 ++++++--
> > > 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/rcu_segcblist.c b/kernel/rcu/rcu_segcblist.c
> > > index 2d2a6b6b9dfb..b70d4154433c 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/rcu/rcu_segcblist.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/rcu_segcblist.c
> > > @@ -513,14 +513,18 @@ void rcu_segcblist_merge(struct rcu_segcblist *dst_rsclp,
> > > {
> > > struct rcu_cblist donecbs;
> > > struct rcu_cblist pendcbs;
> > > + long src_len;
> > >
> > > rcu_cblist_init(&donecbs);
> > > rcu_cblist_init(&pendcbs);
> > > - rcu_segcblist_extract_count(src_rsclp, &donecbs);
> > > +
> > > + src_len = rcu_segcblist_xchg_len(src_rsclp, 0);
> >
> > Given that both rcu_segcblist_xchg_len() and rcu_segcblist_extract_count()
> > have only one callsite each, why not get rid of one of them?
>
> Good point, I will do that.
>
> > Or better yet, please see below, which should allow getting rid of both
> > of them.
> >
> > > rcu_segcblist_extract_done_cbs(src_rsclp, &donecbs);
> > > rcu_segcblist_extract_pend_cbs(src_rsclp, &pendcbs);
> > > - rcu_segcblist_insert_count(dst_rsclp, &donecbs);
> > > +
> > > + rcu_segcblist_add_len(dst_rsclp, src_len);
> > > rcu_segcblist_insert_done_cbs(dst_rsclp, &donecbs);
> > > rcu_segcblist_insert_pend_cbs(dst_rsclp, &pendcbs);
> >
> > Rather than adding the blank lines, why not have the rcu_cblist structures
> > carry the lengths? You are already adjusting one of the two call sites
> > that care (rcu_do_batch()), and the other is srcu_invoke_callbacks().
> > That should shorten this function a bit more. And make callback handling
> > much more approachable, I suspect.
>
> Sorry, I did not understand. The rcu_cblist structure already has a length
> field. I do modify rcu_segcblist_extract_done_cbs() and
> rcu_segcblist_extract_pend_cbs() to carry the length already, in a later
> patch.
>
> Just to emphasize, this patch is just a small refactor to avoid an issue in
> later patches. It aims to keep current functionality unchanged.
True enough. I am just suggesting that an equally small refactor in
a slightly different direction should get to a better place. The key
point enabling this slightly different direction is that this code is
an exception to the "preserve ->cblist.len" rule because it is invoked
only from the CPU hotplug code.
So you could use the rcu_cblist .len field to update the ->cblist.len
field, thus combining the _cbs and _count updates. One thing that helps
is that setting th e rcu_cblist .len field doesn't hurt the other use
cases that require careful handling of ->cblist.len.
Thanx, Paul
> thanks,
>
> - Joel
>
> >
> > There would still be the callback-invocation need to be careful with
> > ->cblist.len due to rcu_barrier() and srcu_barrier(). But both of
> > those should be excluded by this code. (But don't take my word for it,
> > ask KCSAN.)
> >
> > Thanx, Paul
> >
> > > +
> > > rcu_segcblist_init(src_rsclp);
> > > }
> > > --
> > > 2.28.0.297.g1956fa8f8d-goog
> > >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-26 14:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-25 2:48 [PATCH v4 -rcu 0/4] Maintain the length of each segment in the segcblist Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-08-25 2:48 ` [PATCH v4 -rcu 1/4] rcu/segcblist: Do not depend on rcl->len to store the segcb len during merge Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-08-25 20:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-25 22:47 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-08-26 14:20 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2020-08-27 22:55 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-08-28 14:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-01 15:06 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-01 16:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-25 2:48 ` [PATCH v4 -rcu 2/4] rcu/tree: Make rcu_do_batch count how many callbacks were executed Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-08-25 20:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-25 2:48 ` [PATCH v4 -rcu 3/4] rcu/segcblist: Add counters to segcblist datastructure Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-08-25 21:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-25 22:51 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-08-26 14:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-28 0:18 ` [rcu/segcblist] ab9a370277: WARNING:at_kernel/rcu/srcutree.c:#cleanup_srcu_struct kernel test robot
2020-08-25 2:48 ` [PATCH v4 -rcu 4/4] rcu/trace: Add tracing for how segcb list changes Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-08-25 21:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-25 22:53 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-08-25 19:58 ` [PATCH v4 -rcu 0/4] Maintain the length of each segment in the segcblist Paul E. McKenney
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