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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, tkjos@android.com, surenb@google.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hridya@google.com,
	arve@android.com, Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	joel@joelfernandes.org, maco@android.com, christian@brauner.io
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 07/11] drivers/android/binder: convert stats, transaction_log to counter_atomic
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:51:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202009231350.8343298C23@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200923193134.GD199068@kroah.com>

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 09:31:34PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:04:58PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 07:10:27AM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 07:43:36PM -0600, Shuah Khan wrote:
> > > >  struct binder_stats {
> > > > -	atomic_t br[_IOC_NR(BR_FAILED_REPLY) + 1];
> > > > -	atomic_t bc[_IOC_NR(BC_REPLY_SG) + 1];
> > > > -	atomic_t obj_created[BINDER_STAT_COUNT];
> > > > -	atomic_t obj_deleted[BINDER_STAT_COUNT];
> > > > +	struct counter_atomic br[_IOC_NR(BR_FAILED_REPLY) + 1];
> > > > +	struct counter_atomic bc[_IOC_NR(BC_REPLY_SG) + 1];
> > > > +	struct counter_atomic obj_created[BINDER_STAT_COUNT];
> > > > +	struct counter_atomic obj_deleted[BINDER_STAT_COUNT];
> > > 
> > > These are just debugging statistics, no reason they have to be atomic
> > > variables at all and they should be able to just be "struct counter"
> > > variables instead.
> > 
> > But there's no reason for them _not_ to be atomic. Please let's keep
> > this API as always safe. Why even provide a new foot-gun here?
> 
> These are debugging things, how can you shoot yourself in the foot with
> that???

Because suddenly you might be trying to use these values for debugging
only to dig and dig to discover that because they were non-atomic, some
parallel race cause a counter to get dropped, etc.

Since we can design this API robustly, let's take the opportunity to do
so.

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-23 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-23  1:43 [RFC PATCH 00/11] Introduce Simple atomic and non-atomic counters Shuah Khan
2020-09-23  1:43 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] counters: Introduce counter and counter_atomic Shuah Khan
2020-09-23 10:35   ` Greg KH
2020-09-23 19:04   ` Kees Cook
2020-09-23 19:34     ` Greg KH
2020-09-23 20:54       ` Kees Cook
2020-09-23 20:48     ` Shuah Khan
2020-09-23 20:58       ` Kees Cook
2020-09-23 21:19         ` Shuah Khan
2020-09-23 22:04           ` Kees Cook
2020-09-23  1:43 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] selftests:lib: add new test for counters Shuah Khan
2020-09-23  1:43 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] drivers/base: convert deferred_trigger_count and probe_count to counter_atomic Shuah Khan
2020-09-23 10:30   ` Greg KH
2020-09-23  1:43 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] drivers/base/devcoredump: convert devcd_count " Shuah Khan
2020-09-23 10:31   ` Greg KH
2020-09-23  1:43 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] drivers/acpi: convert seqno counter_atomic Shuah Khan
2020-09-24 11:13   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-09-24 15:08     ` Shuah Khan
2020-09-24 15:32       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-09-23  1:43 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] drivers/acpi/apei: " Shuah Khan
2020-09-23  1:43 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] drivers/android/binder: convert stats, transaction_log to counter_atomic Shuah Khan
2020-09-23  5:10   ` Greg KH
2020-09-23 19:04     ` Kees Cook
2020-09-23 19:31       ` Greg KH
2020-09-23 20:51         ` Kees Cook [this message]
2020-09-23  1:43 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] drivers/base/test/test_async_driver_probe: convert to use counter_atomic Shuah Khan
2020-09-23 10:33   ` Greg KH
2020-09-23  1:43 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] drivers/char/ipmi: convert stats " Shuah Khan
2020-09-23  1:43 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] drivers/misc/vmw_vmci: convert num guest devices counter to counter_atomic Shuah Khan
2020-09-23 10:29   ` Greg KH
2020-09-23  1:43 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] drivers/edac: convert pci counters " Shuah Khan

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