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[198.145.64.163]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g9sm295305pfo.144.2020.09.24.12.52.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:52:08 -0700 From: Kees Cook To: Paul Moore Cc: Tom Hromatka , Jann Horn , YiFei Zhu , Christian Brauner , Tycho Andersen , Andy Lutomirski , Will Drewry , Andrea Arcangeli , Giuseppe Scrivano , Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum , Dimitrios Skarlatos , Valentin Rothberg , Hubertus Franke , Jack Chen , Josep Torrellas , Tianyin Xu , bpf , Linux Containers , Linux API , kernel list Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] seccomp: Emulate basic filters for constant action results Message-ID: <202009241251.F719CC4@keescook> References: <20200923232923.3142503-1-keescook@chromium.org> <20200923232923.3142503-5-keescook@chromium.org> <202009240038.864365E@keescook> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 11:28:55AM -0400, Paul Moore wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 3:46 AM Kees Cook wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 01:47:47AM +0200, Jann Horn wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:29 AM Kees Cook wrote: > > > > This emulates absolutely the most basic seccomp filters to figure out > > > > if they will always give the same results for a given arch/nr combo. > > > > > > > > Nearly all seccomp filters are built from the following ops: > > > > > > > > BPF_LD | BPF_W | BPF_ABS > > > > BPF_JMP | BPF_JEQ | BPF_K > > > > BPF_JMP | BPF_JGE | BPF_K > > > > BPF_JMP | BPF_JGT | BPF_K > > > > BPF_JMP | BPF_JSET | BPF_K > > > > BPF_JMP | BPF_JA > > > > BPF_RET | BPF_K > > > > > > > > These are now emulated to check for accesses beyond seccomp_data::arch > > > > or unknown instructions. > > > > > > > > Not yet implemented are: > > > > > > > > BPF_ALU | BPF_AND (generated by libseccomp and Chrome) > > > > > > BPF_AND is normally only used on syscall arguments, not on the syscall > > > number or the architecture, right? And when a syscall argument is > > > loaded, we abort execution anyway. So I think there is no need to > > > implement those? > > > > Is that right? I can't actually tell what libseccomp is doing with > > ALU|AND. It looks like it's using it for building jump lists? > > There is an ALU|AND op in the jump resolution code, but that is really > just if libseccomp needs to fixup the accumulator because a code block > is expecting a masked value (right now that would only be a syscall > argument, not the syscall number itself). > > > Paul, Tom, under what cases does libseccomp emit ALU|AND into filters? > > Presently the only place where libseccomp uses ALU|AND is when the > masked equality comparison is used for comparing syscall arguments > (SCMP_CMP_MASKED_EQ). I can't honestly say I have any good > information about how often that is used by libseccomp callers, but if > I do a quick search on GitHub for "SCMP_CMP_MASKED_EQ" I see 2k worth > of code hits; take that for whatever it is worth. Tom may have some > more/better information. > > Of course no promises on future use :) As one quick example, I keep > thinking about adding the instruction pointer to the list of things > that can be compared as part of a libseccomp rule, and if we do that I > would expect that we would want to also allow a masked comparison (and > utilize another ALU|AND bpf op there). However, I'm not sure how > useful that would be in practice. Okay, cool. Thanks for checking on that. It sounds like the arg-less bitmap optimization can continue to ignore ALU|AND for now. :) -- Kees Cook