From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Rasmus Villemoes <rasmus.villemoes@prevas.dk>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH printk 3/5] printk: use buffer pool for sprint buffers
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 09:58:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201001075852.GD17717@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <de1b6e44-bbd7-6264-d354-4f9d76bd2870@prevas.dk>
On Thu 2020-10-01 09:15:39, Rasmus Villemoes wrote:
> On 30/09/2020 15.35, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 10:06:24 +0200
> > Rasmus Villemoes <rasmus.villemoes@prevas.dk> wrote:
> >
> >> True. But remember that printk is called from _everywhere_, with all
> >> sorts of locks held and/or preemption disabled or whatnot, and every
> >> cycle spent in printk makes those windows wider. Doubling the cost of
> >> every single printk by unconditionally doing vsnprintf() twice is a bad
> >> idea.
> >
> > But the console output is usually magnitudes more expensive than the
> > vsnprintf(), would doing it twice really make a difference?
>
> AFAIU, not every message gets printed to the console directly - syslog(2):
>
> /proc/sys/kernel/printk
> /proc/sys/kernel/printk is a writable file containing four
> integer val‐
> ues that influence kernel printk() behavior when printing or
> logging
> error messages. The four values are:
>
> console_loglevel
> Only messages with a log level lower than this value
> will be
> printed to the console. The default value for this
> field is
> DEFAULT_CONSOLE_LOGLEVEL (7), but it is set to 4 if the
> kernel
> command line contains the word "quiet",
>
> So the normal state of things is that you don't pay the cost of printing
> to the console for all the pr_debug (ok, they may be compiled out or
> run-time disabled depending on DYNAMIC_DEBUG etc.), nor info, notice,
> warn. For those messages that are not directly written to the console,
> the vsnprintf() is a large part of the cost (not exactly half, of
> course, so doubling is an exaggeration, but whether it's 70% or 100%
> doesn't really matter).
>
> I'm not at all concerned about pr_err and above becoming more expensive,
> they are rare. But random drivers are filled with random pr_info in
> random contexts - just a small selection from dmesg -x shows these
> really important things:
>
> kern :info : [ 4631.338105] ax88179_178a 3-13.2.3.3:1.0 eth0: ax88179
> - Link status is: 1
> kern :info : [ 4642.218100] ax88179_178a 3-13.2.3.3:1.0 eth0: ax88179
> - Link status is: 0
> kern :info : [ 4643.882038] ax88179_178a 3-13.2.3.3:1.0 eth0: ax88179
> - Link status is: 1
> kern :info : [ 4667.562011] ax88179_178a 3-13.2.3.3:1.0 eth0: ax88179
> - Link status is: 0
> ...
> kern :info : [ 9149.215456] [drm] ring test on 1 succeeded in 1 usecs
> kern :info : [ 9149.215459] [drm] ring test on 2 succeeded in 1 usecs
> kern :info : [ 9149.215466] [drm] ring test on 3 succeeded in 4 usecs
>
> and if I'm reading the code correctly, the former is even an example of
> something that happens in irq context.
As I already wrote. We might optimize this when it causes real
life problems. And trace_printk() is a better choice for performance
sensitive debugging.
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-01 7:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-22 15:38 [PATCH printk 0/5] printk: remove logbuf_lock John Ogness
2020-09-22 15:38 ` [PATCH printk 1/5] printk: get new seq before enabling interrupts John Ogness
2020-09-23 14:17 ` Petr Mladek
2020-09-23 14:36 ` John Ogness
2020-09-22 15:38 ` [PATCH printk 2/5] printk: kmsg_dump_rewind_nolock: start from first record John Ogness
2020-09-23 14:52 ` Petr Mladek
2020-09-23 15:39 ` John Ogness
2020-09-22 15:38 ` [PATCH printk 3/5] printk: use buffer pool for sprint buffers John Ogness
2020-09-23 15:11 ` Petr Mladek
2020-09-23 15:21 ` David Laight
2020-09-23 16:41 ` Petr Mladek
2020-09-24 5:40 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-09-24 8:45 ` Petr Mladek
2020-09-24 8:53 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-09-24 9:49 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-09-25 8:15 ` Petr Mladek
2020-09-24 9:54 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-09-24 12:32 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-09-25 8:28 ` Petr Mladek
2020-09-30 8:06 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-09-30 8:51 ` Petr Mladek
2020-09-30 8:57 ` John Ogness
2020-09-30 13:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-30 14:32 ` David Laight
2020-10-01 7:15 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-10-01 7:58 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2020-09-24 1:21 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-09-24 6:17 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-09-24 8:54 ` Petr Mladek
2020-09-24 9:06 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-09-25 8:13 ` Petr Mladek
2020-09-22 15:38 ` [PATCH printk 4/5] printk: remove logbuf_lock, add syslog_lock John Ogness
2020-09-23 16:30 ` Petr Mladek
2020-09-24 8:45 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-09-24 9:21 ` John Ogness
2020-09-22 15:38 ` [PATCH printk 5/5] printk: remove nmi safe buffers John Ogness
2020-09-23 16:36 ` Petr Mladek
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20201001075852.GD17717@alley \
--to=pmladek@suse.com \
--cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
--cc=john.ogness@linutronix.de \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=rasmus.villemoes@prevas.dk \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com \
--cc=sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com \
--cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
--cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox