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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Tony Asleson <tasleson@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	pmladek@suse.com, David Lehman <dlehman@redhat.com>,
	sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com, jbaron@akamai.com,
	James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com, kbusch@kernel.org, axboe@fb.com,
	sagi@grimberg.me, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	orson.zhai@unisoc.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [v5 01/12] struct device: Add function callback durable_name
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 06:48:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201008044849.GA163423@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <72be0597-a3e2-bf7b-90b2-799d10fdf56c@redhat.com>

On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 03:10:17PM -0500, Tony Asleson wrote:
> On 10/1/20 6:48 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 09:35:52AM -0500, Tony Asleson wrote:
> >> On 9/30/20 2:38 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 05:04:32PM -0500, Tony Asleson wrote:
> >>>> I'm trying to figure out a way to positively identify which storage
> >>>> device an error belongs to over time.
> >>>
> >>> "over time" is not the kernel's responsibility.
> >>>
> >>> This comes up every 5 years or so. The kernel provides you, at runtime,
> >>> a mapping between a hardware device and a "logical" device.  It can
> >>> provide information to userspace about this mapping, but once that
> >>> device goes away, the kernel is free to reuse that logical device again.
> >>>
> >>> If you want to track what logical devices match up to what physical
> >>> device, then do it in userspace, by parsing the log files.
> >>
> >> I don't understand why people think it's acceptable to ask user space to
> >> parse text that is subject to change.
> > 
> > What text is changing? The format of of the prefix of dev_*() is well
> > known and has been stable for 15+ years now, right?  What is difficult
> > in parsing it?
> 
> Many of the storage layer messages are using printk, not dev_printk.

Ok, then stop right there.  Fix that up.  Don't try to route around the
standard way of displaying log messages by creating a totally different
way of doing things.

Just use the dev_*() calls, and all will be fine.  Kernel log messages
are not "ABI" in that they have to be preserved in any specific way, so
adding a prefix to them as dev_*() does, will be fine.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-08  4:48 UTC|newest]

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2020-10-07 20:10               ` [v5 01/12] struct device: Add function callback durable_name Tony Asleson
2020-10-08  4:48                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2020-10-08 20:49                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2020-10-08  5:54                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-10-08  6:22                 ` Finn Thain

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