From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: x86-ml <x86@kernel.org>, Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Have insn decoder functions return success/failure
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:31:00 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201022163100.1139b28220da4eafb5e70fcc@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201021164558.GB4050@zn.tnic>
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 18:45:58 +0200
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 11:26:13PM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> > Hmm, I meant someone might think it can be used for filtering the
> > instruction something like,
> >
> > insn_init(insn, buf, buflen, 1);
> > ret = insn_get_length(insn);
> > if (!ret) {
> > /* OK, this is safe */
> > patch_text(buf, trampoline);
> > }
> >
> > No, we need another validator for such usage.
>
> Well, I think calling insn_get_length() should give you only the
> *length* of the insn and nothing else - I mean that is what the function
> is called. And I believe current use is wrong.
>
> Examples:
>
> arch/x86/kernel/kprobes/core.c:
> insn_get_length(&insn);
>
> /*
> * Another debugging subsystem might insert this breakpoint.
> * In that case, we can't recover it.
> */
> if (insn.opcode.bytes[0] == INT3_INSN_OPCODE)
>
> So this has called get_length but it is far from clear that after that
> call, the opcode bytes in insn.opcode.bytes are there.
No, insn_get_length() implies it decodes whole of the instruction.
(yeah, we need an alias of that, something like insn_get_complete())
>
> What that should do instead IMO is this:
>
> insn_get_opcode(&insn);
>
No, you've cut the last lines of that loop.
/*
* Another debugging subsystem might insert this breakpoint.
* In that case, we can't recover it.
*/
if (insn.opcode.bytes[0] == INT3_INSN_OPCODE)
return 0;
addr += insn.length;
}
I need insn.length too. Of course we can split it into 2 calls. But
as I said, since the insn_get_length() implies it decodes all other
parts, I just called it once.
> and *then* the return value can tell you whether the opcode bytes were
> parsed properly or not. See what I mean?
I agreed to check the return value of insn_get_length() at that point
only for checking whether the instruction parsing was failed or not.
>
> That's even documented that way:
>
> /**
> * insn_get_opcode - collect opcode(s)
> * @insn: &struct insn containing instruction
> *
> * Populates @insn->opcode, updates @insn->next_byte to point past the
> * opcode byte(s), and set @insn->attr (except for groups).
>
>
> Similarly here:
>
> static enum es_result vc_decode_insn(struct es_em_ctxt *ctxt)
>
> ...
>
> insn_get_length(&ctxt->insn);
>
> ret = ctxt->insn.immediate.got ? ES_OK : ES_DECODE_FAILED;
>
> that thing wants to decode the insn but it is looking whether it parsed
> an *immediate*?!
Hm, it is better to call insn_get_immediate() if it doesn't use length later.
>
> I'm not saying this is necessarily wrong - just the naming nomenclature
> and the API should be properly defined when you call a function of the
> insn decoder, what you are guaranteed to get and what a caller can
> assume after that. And then the proper functions be called.
Would you mean we'd better have something like insn_get_until_immediate() ?
Since the x86 instruction is CISC, we can not decode intermediate
parts. The APIs follows that. If you are confused, I'm sorry about that.
>
> In the kprobes/core.c example above, it does a little further:
>
> ddr += insn.length;
>
> which, IMO, it should be either preceeded by a call to insn_get_length()
> - yes, this time we want the insn length or, the code should call a
> decoding function which gives you *both* length* and opcode bytes.
> insn_decode_insn() or whatever. And *that* should be documented in that
> function's kernel-doc section. And so on...
Actually, there is a historical reason too. INT3 check was added afterwards.
At first, I just calculated the instruction length in the loop...
Thank you,
>
> Does that make more sense?
>
> Thx.
>
> --
> Regards/Gruss,
> Boris.
>
> https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette
--
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-22 7:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-20 12:02 [RFC] Have insn decoder functions return success/failure Borislav Petkov
2020-10-20 14:27 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-10-20 14:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-21 0:50 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-10-21 9:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-21 14:26 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-10-21 16:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-22 7:31 ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2020-10-22 9:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-22 13:21 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-10-22 17:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-23 9:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-23 9:28 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-10-23 9:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-23 10:47 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-10-23 23:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-24 0:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-24 7:21 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-10-24 8:23 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-24 16:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-27 13:42 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-28 11:36 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-10-24 7:13 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-10-24 8:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-29 12:42 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-30 1:24 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-10-30 13:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-23 9:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-22 8:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
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