From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 -tip 06/26] sched: Add core wide task selection and scheduling.
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 17:31:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201023213118.GD3563800@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201023192654.GH2974@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 09:26:54PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 01:57:24PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 03:54:00PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 03:51:29PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 09:43:16PM -0400, Joel Fernandes (Google) wrote:
> > > > > + /*
> > > > > + * If this sibling doesn't yet have a suitable task to
> > > > > + * run; ask for the most elegible task, given the
> > > > > + * highest priority task already selected for this
> > > > > + * core.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > + p = pick_task(rq_i, class, max);
> > > > > + if (!p) {
> > > > > + /*
> > > > > + * If there weren't no cookies; we don't need to
> > > > > + * bother with the other siblings.
> > > > > + * If the rest of the core is not running a tagged
> > > > > + * task, i.e. need_sync == 0, and the current CPU
> > > > > + * which called into the schedule() loop does not
> > > > > + * have any tasks for this class, skip selecting for
> > > > > + * other siblings since there's no point. We don't skip
> > > > > + * for RT/DL because that could make CFS force-idle RT.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > + if (i == cpu && !need_sync && class == &fair_sched_class)
> > > > > + goto next_class;
> > > > > +
> > > > > + continue;
> > > > > + }
> > > >
> > > > I'm failing to understand the class == &fair_sched_class bit.
> >
> > The last line in the comment explains it "We don't skip for RT/DL because
> > that could make CFS force-idle RT.".
>
> Well, yes, but it does not explain how this can come about, now does it.
Sorry, I should have made it a separate commit with the below explanation. Oh
well, live and learn!
> > Even if need_sync == false, we need to go look at other CPUs (non-local
> > CPUs) to see if they could be running RT.
> >
> > Say the RQs in a particular core look like this:
> > Let CFS1 and CFS2 be 2 tagged CFS tags. Let RT1 be an untagged RT task.
> >
> > rq0 rq1
> > CFS1 (tagged) RT1 (not tag)
> > CFS2 (tagged)
> >
> > Say schedule() runs on rq0. Now, it will enter the above loop and
> > pick_task(RT) will return NULL for 'p'. It will enter the above if() block
> > and see that need_sync == false and will skip RT entirely.
> >
> > The end result of the selection will be (say prio(CFS1) > prio(CFS2)):
> > rq0 rq1
> > CFS1 IDLE
> >
> > When it should have selected:
> > rq0 r1
> > IDLE RT
> >
> > I saw this issue on real-world usecases in ChromeOS where an RT task gets
> > constantly force-idled and breaks RT. The "class == &fair_sched_class" bit
> > cures it.
>
> Ah, I see. The thing is, this looses the optimization for a bunch of
> valid (and arguably common) scenarios. The problem is that the moment we
> end up selecting a task with a cookie we've invalidated the premise
> under which we ended up with the selected task.
>
> How about this then?
This does look better. It makes sense and I think it will work. I will look
more into it and also test it.
BTW, as further optimization in the future, isn't it better for the
schedule() loop on 1 HT to select for all HT *even if* need_sync == false to
begin with? i.e. no cookied tasks are runnable.
That way the pick loop in schedule() running on other HTs can directly pick
what was pre-selected for it via:
if (rq->core->core_pick_seq == rq->core->core_task_seq &&
rq->core->core_pick_seq != rq->core_sched_seq &&
rq->core_pick)
.. which I think is more efficient. Its just a thought and may not be worth doing.
thanks,
- Joel
> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -4709,6 +4709,7 @@ pick_next_task(struct rq *rq, struct tas
> need_sync = !!rq->core->core_cookie;
>
> /* reset state */
> +reset:
> rq->core->core_cookie = 0UL;
> for_each_cpu(i, smt_mask) {
> struct rq *rq_i = cpu_rq(i);
> @@ -4748,14 +4749,8 @@ pick_next_task(struct rq *rq, struct tas
> /*
> * If there weren't no cookies; we don't need to
> * bother with the other siblings.
> - * If the rest of the core is not running a tagged
> - * task, i.e. need_sync == 0, and the current CPU
> - * which called into the schedule() loop does not
> - * have any tasks for this class, skip selecting for
> - * other siblings since there's no point. We don't skip
> - * for RT/DL because that could make CFS force-idle RT.
> */
> - if (i == cpu && !need_sync && !p->core_cookie)
> + if (i == cpu && !need_sync)
> goto next_class;
>
> continue;
> @@ -4765,7 +4760,17 @@ pick_next_task(struct rq *rq, struct tas
> * Optimize the 'normal' case where there aren't any
> * cookies and we don't need to sync up.
> */
> - if (i == cpu && !need_sync && !p->core_cookie) {
> + if (i == cpu && !need_sync) {
> + if (p->core_cookie) {
> + /*
> + * This optimization is only valid as
> + * long as there are no cookies
> + * involved.
> + */
> + need_sync = true;
> + goto reset;
> + }
> +
> next = p;
> goto done;
> }
> @@ -4805,7 +4810,6 @@ pick_next_task(struct rq *rq, struct tas
> */
> need_sync = true;
> }
> -
> }
> }
> next_class:;
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-23 21:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-20 1:43 [PATCH v8 -tip 00/26] Core scheduling Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 01/26] sched: Wrap rq::lock access Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 02/26] sched: Introduce sched_class::pick_task() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-22 7:59 ` Li, Aubrey
2020-10-22 15:25 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-23 5:25 ` Li, Aubrey
2020-10-23 21:47 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-24 2:48 ` Li, Aubrey
2020-10-24 11:10 ` Vineeth Pillai
2020-10-24 12:27 ` Vineeth Pillai
2020-10-24 23:48 ` Li, Aubrey
2020-10-26 9:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-27 3:17 ` Li, Aubrey
2020-10-27 14:19 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-27 15:23 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-27 14:14 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 03/26] sched: Core-wide rq->lock Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-26 11:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-27 16:27 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 04/26] sched/fair: Add a few assertions Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 05/26] sched: Basic tracking of matching tasks Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 06/26] sched: Add core wide task selection and scheduling Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-23 13:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-23 13:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-23 17:57 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-23 19:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-23 21:31 ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2020-10-26 8:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-27 16:58 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-26 9:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-05 18:50 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-05 22:07 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-23 15:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-23 17:59 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 07/26] sched/fair: Fix forced idle sibling starvation corner case Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 08/26] sched/fair: Snapshot the min_vruntime of CPUs on force idle Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-26 12:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-28 15:29 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-28 18:39 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-29 16:59 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-29 18:24 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-29 18:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-30 2:36 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-30 2:42 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-30 8:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-31 21:41 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 09/26] sched: Trivial forced-newidle balancer Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 10/26] sched: migration changes for core scheduling Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 11/26] irq_work: Cleanup Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 12/26] arch/x86: Add a new TIF flag for untrusted tasks Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 13/26] kernel/entry: Add support for core-wide protection of kernel-mode Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 3:41 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-03 0:20 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-22 5:48 ` Li, Aubrey
2020-11-03 0:50 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-30 10:29 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-03 1:20 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-06 16:57 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-06 17:43 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-06 18:07 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-10 9:35 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-10 22:42 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-16 10:08 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-11-16 14:50 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-16 15:43 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 14/26] entry/idle: Enter and exit kernel protection during idle entry and exit Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 15/26] entry/kvm: Protect the kernel when entering from guest Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 16/26] sched: cgroup tagging interface for core scheduling Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 17/26] sched: Split the cookie and setup per-task cookie on fork Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-04 22:30 ` chris hyser
2020-11-05 14:49 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-09 23:30 ` chris hyser
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 18/26] sched: Add a per-thread core scheduling interface Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 19/26] sched: Add a second-level tag for nested CGroup usecase Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-31 0:42 ` Josh Don
2020-11-03 2:54 ` Joel Fernandes
[not found] ` <6c07e70d-52f2-69ff-e1fa-690cd2c97f3d@linux.intel.com>
2020-11-05 15:52 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 20/26] sched: Release references to the per-task cookie on exit Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-04 21:50 ` chris hyser
2020-11-05 15:46 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 21/26] sched: Handle task addition to CGroup Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 22/26] sched/debug: Add CGroup node for printing group cookie if SCHED_DEBUG Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 23/26] kselftest: Add tests for core-sched interface Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-30 22:20 ` [PATCH] sched: Change all 4 space tabs to actual tabs John B. Wyatt IV
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 24/26] sched: Move core-scheduler interfacing code to a new file Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-26 1:05 ` Li, Aubrey
2020-11-03 2:58 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 25/26] Documentation: Add core scheduling documentation Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-20 3:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-12 16:11 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-20 1:43 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 26/26] sched: Debug bits Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-10-30 13:26 ` [PATCH v8 -tip 00/26] Core scheduling Ning, Hongyu
2020-11-06 2:58 ` Li, Aubrey
2020-11-06 17:54 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-09 6:04 ` Li, Aubrey
2020-11-06 20:55 ` [RFT for v9] (Was Re: [PATCH v8 -tip 00/26] Core scheduling) Joel Fernandes
2020-11-13 9:22 ` Ning, Hongyu
2020-11-13 10:01 ` Ning, Hongyu
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