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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/build: Fix vmlinux size check on 64-bit
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 20:43:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201028194355.GB27112@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201028164551.GA1989568@rani.riverdale.lan>

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:45:51PM -0400, Arvind Sankar wrote:
> You don't want to try to run the kernel from physical address 0 in any
> case. The default is set to 16MiB to avoid low memory, historically to
> avoid the 24-bit ISA DMA range.

Sure, that's why I wrote:

"... so I guess this should be a range > 0 specification but I guess not
important."

So how about a sentence or two alluding to that fact in the help text of
that option?

> This doesn't matter for the 64-bit kernel, which can be run from any
> physical address independent of the RELOCATABLE/PHYSICAL_START settings.
> It only matters on 32-bit, where VA and PA are tied together by
> 	VA == __PAGE_OFFSET + PA

You mean the kernel text mapping I assume because we do

#define __va(x)                 ((void *)((unsigned long)(x)+PAGE_OFFSET))

on 64-bit too but that's the direct mapping of all physical memory.

> On 64-bit, the kernel's location in VA space and physical space can be
> independently moved around, so a kernel that starts at 16MiB in VA space
> can be loaded anywhere above 16MiB in physical space.

Right.

> KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE is _not_ the size of the kernel image, the name is
> misleading.

So that needs fixing too, I guess.

> It is the maximum VA that the kernel can occupy, it is used
> to prepopulate the PMD-level pagetable for initial boot (level2_kernel_pgt)
> and is also used to define MODULES_VADDR, so it _is_ talking about
> mappings. If you have a 30MiB kernel that is placed at a starting VA of
> 510MiB when KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE is 512MiB, it won't boot.

... because not the whole kernel will be mapped, sure. There's a comment
above KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE which could use some of that explanation.

> Increasing vmlinux size can trigger the problem by pushing _end
> beyond KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE, but the problem occurs once _end -
> __START_KERNEL_map exceeds KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE, not when _end - _text
> exceeds it, hence this patch.

Understood - in both cases, once _end goes beyond the 512MiB end of the
PMD mapping, we've lost. Please add that part to the commit message too
because we will forget.

Thx.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-28 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-05 15:15 [PATCH] x86/build: Fix vmlinux size check on 64-bit Arvind Sankar
2020-10-27 20:08 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-27 21:14   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-10-28 13:39     ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-28 16:45       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-10-28 19:43         ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2020-10-28 20:45           ` Arvind Sankar
2020-10-29 16:19             ` [PATCH v2] " Arvind Sankar
2020-10-29 21:02               ` [tip: x86/build] " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-10-29 20:05             ` [PATCH] " Borislav Petkov

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