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From: Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, patrick.bellasi@matbug.net,
	lenb@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	valentin.schneider@arm.com, ionela.voinescu@arm.com,
	viresh.kumar@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Documentation/scheduler/schedutil.txt
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 09:13:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201120091356.GA2653684@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201120085653.GA3092@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Friday 20 Nov 2020 at 09:56:53 (+0100), Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 08:55:27AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >  - In saturated scenarios task movement will cause some transient dips,
> >    suppose we have a CPU saturated with 4 tasks, then when we migrate a task
> >    to an idle CPU, the old CPU will have a 'running' value of 0.75 while the
> >    new CPU will gain 0.25. This is inevitable and time progression will
> >    correct this. XXX do we still guarantee f_max due to no idle-time?

The sugov_cpu_is_busy() logic should mitigate that, but looking at it
again I just realized we don't apply it to the 'shared' update path. I
can't recall why. Anybody?

> Do we want something like this? Is the 1.5 threshold sane? (it's been too
> long since I looked at actual numbers here)
> 
> ---
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/features.h b/kernel/sched/features.h
> index 68d369cba9e4..f0bed8902c40 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/features.h
> +++ b/kernel/sched/features.h
> @@ -90,3 +90,4 @@ SCHED_FEAT(WA_BIAS, true)
>   */
>  SCHED_FEAT(UTIL_EST, true)
>  SCHED_FEAT(UTIL_EST_FASTUP, true)
> +SCHED_FEAT(UTIL_SAT, true)
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/sched.h b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> index 590e6f27068c..bf70e5ed8ba6 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
> +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> @@ -2593,10 +2593,17 @@ static inline unsigned long cpu_util_dl(struct rq *rq)
>  	return READ_ONCE(rq->avg_dl.util_avg);
>  }
>  
> +#define RUNNABLE_SAT (SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE + SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE/2)
> +
>  static inline unsigned long cpu_util_cfs(struct rq *rq)
>  {
>  	unsigned long util = READ_ONCE(rq->cfs.avg.util_avg);
>  
> +	if (sched_feat(UTIL_SAT)) {
> +		if (READ_ONCE(rq->cfs.avg.runnable_avg) > RUNNABLE_SAT)
> +			return SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE;
> +	}
> +
>  	if (sched_feat(UTIL_EST)) {
>  		util = max_t(unsigned long, util,
>  			     READ_ONCE(rq->cfs.avg.util_est.enqueued));

Need to do the math again, but it's an interesting idea and would solve
a few things (e.g. reset the overutilized flag because of the 'gap' left
by a migration and such) ...

Thanks,
Quentin

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-20  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-20  7:55 [RFC] Documentation/scheduler/schedutil.txt Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-20  8:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-20  9:13   ` Quentin Perret [this message]
2020-11-20  9:19     ` Viresh Kumar
2020-11-20  9:27       ` Quentin Perret
2020-11-23  9:30   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-11-23 10:05     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-11-23 11:27       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-11-23 13:42         ` Vincent Guittot
2020-11-23 18:39           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-11-20 11:45 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-11-20 14:37 ` Morten Rasmussen
2020-11-23  9:26 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-11-23 14:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-02 14:18 ` Mel Gorman
2020-12-02 15:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-02 16:45     ` Mel Gorman
2020-12-02 16:58       ` Peter Zijlstra

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