From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Justin He <Justin.He@arm.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfio iommu type1: Bypass the vma permission check in vfio_pin_pages_remote()
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:07:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201124100751.793c671f@w520.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM6PR08MB32248D873EDD8923675F2D3BF7FC0@AM6PR08MB3224.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 02:37:32 +0000
Justin He <Justin.He@arm.com> wrote:
> Hi Alex, thanks for the comments.
> See mine below:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 1:05 AM
> > To: Justin He <Justin.He@arm.com>
> > Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>; kvm@vger.kernel.org; linux-
> > kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfio iommu type1: Bypass the vma permission check in
> > vfio_pin_pages_remote()
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 22:27:37 +0800
> > Jia He <justin.he@arm.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The permission of vfio iommu is different and incompatible with vma
> > > permission. If the iotlb->perm is IOMMU_NONE (e.g. qemu side), qemu will
> > > simply call unmap ioctl() instead of mapping. Hence vfio_dma_map() can't
> > > map a dma region with NONE permission.
> > >
> > > This corner case will be exposed in coming virtio_fs cache_size
> > > commit [1]
> > > - mmap(NULL, size, PROT_NONE, MAP_ANONYMOUS | MAP_PRIVATE, -1, 0);
> > > memory_region_init_ram_ptr()
> > > - re-mmap the above area with read/write authority.
> > > - vfio_dma_map() will be invoked when vfio device is hotplug added.
> > >
> > > qemu:
> > > vfio_listener_region_add()
> > > vfio_dma_map(..., readonly=false)
> > > map.flags is set to VFIO_DMA_MAP_FLAG_READ|VFIO_..._WRITE
> > > ioctl(VFIO_IOMMU_MAP_DMA)
> > >
> > > kernel:
> > > vfio_dma_do_map()
> > > vfio_pin_map_dma()
> > > vfio_pin_pages_remote()
> > > vaddr_get_pfn()
> > > ...
> > > check_vma_flags() failed! because
> > > vm_flags hasn't VM_WRITE && gup_flags
> > > has FOLL_WRITE
> > >
> > > It will report error in qemu log when hotplug adding(vfio) a nvme disk
> > > to qemu guest on an Ampere EMAG server:
> > > "VFIO_MAP_DMA failed: Bad address"
> >
> > I don't fully understand the argument here, I think this is suggesting
> > that because QEMU won't call VFIO_IOMMU_MAP_DMA on a region that has
> > NONE permission, the kernel can ignore read/write permission by using
> > FOLL_FORCE. Not only is QEMU not the only userspace driver for vfio,
> > but regardless of that, we can't trust the behavior of any given
> > userspace driver. Bypassing the permission check with FOLL_FORCE seems
> > like it's placing the trust in the user, which seems like a security
> > issue. Thanks,
> Yes, this might have side impact on security.
> But besides this simple fix(adding FOLL_FORCE), do you think it is a good
> idea that:
> Qemu provides a special vfio_dma_map_none_perm() to allow mapping a
> region with NONE permission?
If NONE permission implies that we use FOLL_FORCE as described here to
ignore the r+w permissions and trust that the user knows what they're
doing, that seems like a non-starter. Ultimately I think what you're
describing is a scenario where our current permission check fails and
the solution is probably to extend the check to account for other ways
that a user may have access to a vma rather than bypass the check.
Thanks,
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-24 17:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-19 14:27 [PATCH] vfio iommu type1: Bypass the vma permission check in vfio_pin_pages_remote() Jia He
2020-11-19 17:05 ` Alex Williamson
2020-11-23 2:37 ` Justin He
2020-11-24 17:07 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2020-11-24 18:12 ` Peter Xu
2020-11-25 1:05 ` Justin He
2020-11-25 15:57 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-02 14:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-02 15:45 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-03 11:20 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-03 15:43 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-03 15:55 ` Alex Williamson
2020-12-03 16:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-12-07 14:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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