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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip 12/32] sched: Simplify the core pick loop for optimized case
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 12:04:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201124170430.GC1021337@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201124120438.GY3021@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi Peter,

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 01:04:38PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 06:19:42PM -0500, Joel Fernandes (Google) wrote:
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Optimize for common case where this CPU has no cookies
> > +	 * and there are no cookied tasks running on siblings.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (!need_sync) {
> > +		for_each_class(class) {
> > +			next = class->pick_task(rq);
> > +			if (next)
> > +				break;
> > +		}
> > +
> > +		if (!next->core_cookie) {
> > +			rq->core_pick = NULL;
> > +			goto done;
> > +		}
> >  		need_sync = true;
> >  	}
> 
> This isn't what I send you here:
> 
>   https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20201026093131.GF2628@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net

I had replied to it here with concerns about the effects of newly idle
balancing not being reverseable, it was only a theoretical concern:
http://lore.kernel.org/r/20201105185019.GA2771003@google.com

Also I was trying to keep the logic the same as v8 for unconstrained pick
(calling pick_task), considering that has been tested quite a bit.

> Specifically, you've lost the whole cfs-cgroup optimization.

Are you referring to this optimization in pick_next_task_fair() ?

/*
 * Since we haven't yet done put_prev_entity and if the
 * selected task
 * is a different task than we started out with, try
 * and touch the
 * least amount of cfs_rqs.
 */

You are right, we wouldn't get that with just calling pick_task_fair(). We
did not have this in v8 series either though.

Also, if the task is a cookied task, then I think you are doing more work
with your patch due to the extra put_prev_task().

> What was wrong/not working with the below?

Other than the new idle balancing, IIRC it was also causing instability.
Maybe we can considering this optimization in the future if that's Ok with
you?

thanks,

 - Joel

> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -5225,8 +5227,6 @@ pick_next_task(struct rq *rq, struct tas
>  		return next;
>  	}
>  
> -	put_prev_task_balance(rq, prev, rf);
> -
>  	smt_mask = cpu_smt_mask(cpu);
>  	need_sync = !!rq->core->core_cookie;
>  
> @@ -5255,17 +5255,14 @@ pick_next_task(struct rq *rq, struct tas
>  	 * and there are no cookied tasks running on siblings.
>  	 */
>  	if (!need_sync) {
> -		for_each_class(class) {
> -			next = class->pick_task(rq);
> -			if (next)
> -				break;
> -		}
> -
> +		next = __pick_next_task(rq, prev, rf);
>  		if (!next->core_cookie) {
>  			rq->core_pick = NULL;
> -			goto done;
> +			return next;
>  		}
> -		need_sync = true;
> +		put_prev_task(next);
> +	} else {
> +		put_prev_task_balance(rq, prev, rf);
>  	}
>  
>  	for_each_cpu(i, smt_mask) {

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-24 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-17 23:19 [PATCH -tip 00/32] Core scheduling (v9) Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 01/32] sched: Wrap rq::lock access Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-19 23:31   ` Singh, Balbir
2020-11-20 16:55     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-22  8:52       ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 02/32] sched: Introduce sched_class::pick_task() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-19 23:56   ` Singh, Balbir
2020-11-20 16:58     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-25 23:19       ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-25 16:28   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-11-26  9:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-26 10:17       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-11-26 12:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 03/32] sched/fair: Fix pick_task_fair crashes due to empty rbtree Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-20 10:15   ` Singh, Balbir
2020-11-20 18:11     ` Vineeth Pillai
2020-11-23 22:31       ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-24  8:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 04/32] sched: Core-wide rq->lock Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-22  9:11   ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-24  8:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-26  0:35       ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 05/32] sched/fair: Add a few assertions Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 06/32] sched: Basic tracking of matching tasks Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 07/32] sched: Add core wide task selection and scheduling Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 08/32] sched/fair: Fix forced idle sibling starvation corner case Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-22 10:35   ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 09/32] sched/fair: Snapshot the min_vruntime of CPUs on force idle Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-22 11:44   ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-23 12:31     ` Vineeth Pillai
2020-11-23 23:31       ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-24  9:09         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-25 23:17           ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-26  8:23             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 10/32] sched: Fix priority inversion of cookied task with sibling Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-22 22:41   ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-24 18:30     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-25 23:05       ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-26  8:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-26 22:27           ` Balbir Singh
2020-12-01 17:49         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 11/32] sched: Enqueue task into core queue only after vruntime is updated Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 12/32] sched: Simplify the core pick loop for optimized case Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-24 12:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-24 17:04     ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2020-11-25  8:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 13/32] sched: Trivial forced-newidle balancer Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-23  4:38   ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-23 15:07     ` Li, Aubrey
2020-11-23 23:35       ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-24  0:32         ` Li, Aubrey
2020-11-25 21:28           ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 14/32] sched: migration changes for core scheduling Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-22 23:54   ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-23  4:36     ` Li, Aubrey
2020-11-24 15:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-25  3:12         ` Li, Aubrey
2020-11-25 22:57           ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-26  3:20             ` Li, Aubrey
2020-11-26  8:32               ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-26  9:26                 ` Li, Aubrey
2020-11-30  9:33                   ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-30 12:29                     ` Li, Aubrey
2020-12-02 14:09                       ` Li, Aubrey
2020-12-03  1:06                         ` Li, Aubrey
2020-11-30 10:35   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-11-30 12:32     ` Li, Aubrey
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 15/32] sched: Improve snapshotting of min_vruntime for CGroups Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-24 10:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-24 17:07     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-25  8:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-24 10:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 16/32] irq_work: Cleanup Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 17/32] arch/x86: Add a new TIF flag for untrusted tasks Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-23  5:18   ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 18/32] kernel/entry: Add support for core-wide protection of kernel-mode Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-24 16:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-24 17:52     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-25  9:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-01 17:55     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-26  5:37   ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 19/32] entry/idle: Enter and exit kernel protection during idle entry and exit Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-24 16:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-24 18:03     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-25  8:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-01 18:24         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 20/32] entry/kvm: Protect the kernel when entering from guest Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 21/32] sched: CGroup tagging interface for core scheduling Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 22/32] sched: Split the cookie and setup per-task cookie on fork Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-25 11:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-01 18:56     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-25 11:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-01 19:20     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-12-01 19:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-02  6:36         ` Josh Don
2020-12-02  7:54           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-04  0:20             ` Josh Don
2020-12-06 17:49         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-25 11:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-01 19:16     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-25 11:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-01 19:11     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-12-01 19:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-06 18:15         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-25 12:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-01 18:38     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-25 13:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-01 18:52     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-30 23:05   ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 23/32] sched: Add a per-thread core scheduling interface Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-25 13:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-01 19:36     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-12-02 21:47   ` Chris Hyser
2020-12-02 23:13     ` chris hyser
2020-12-06 17:34     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-12-07 21:48       ` chris hyser
2020-12-09 18:52       ` Chris Hyser
2020-12-14 19:31         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-12-14 19:44           ` chris hyser
2020-12-14 23:25             ` Joel Fernandes
2020-12-15 14:56               ` chris hyser
2020-12-15 16:23               ` chris hyser
2020-12-15 18:13               ` Dhaval Giani
2020-12-16  0:35                 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 24/32] sched: Release references to the per-task cookie on exit Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-25 13:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 25/32] sched: Refactor core cookie into struct Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 26/32] sched: Add a second-level tag for nested CGroup usecase Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-25 13:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-30 23:10     ` Balbir Singh
2020-12-01 20:08     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-12-02  6:18     ` Josh Don
2020-12-02  8:02       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-02 18:53         ` Tejun Heo
2020-12-04  0:51         ` Josh Don
2020-12-04 15:45           ` Tejun Heo
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 27/32] sched/debug: Add CGroup node for printing group cookie if SCHED_DEBUG Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 28/32] kselftest: Add tests for core-sched interface Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-17 23:19 ` [PATCH -tip 29/32] sched: Move core-scheduler interfacing code to a new file Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-17 23:20 ` [PATCH -tip 30/32] Documentation: Add core scheduling documentation Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-17 23:20 ` [PATCH -tip 31/32] sched: Add a coresched command line option Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-11-19 23:39   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-25 13:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-26  0:11     ` Balbir Singh
2020-11-17 23:20 ` [PATCH -tip 32/32] sched: Debug bits Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-12-01  0:21   ` Balbir Singh
2021-01-15 15:10     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-11-24 11:48 ` [PATCH -tip 00/32] Core scheduling (v9) Vincent Guittot
2020-11-24 15:08   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-12-03  6:16     ` Ning, Hongyu

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