From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: boqun.feng@gmail.com, rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: One potential issue with concurrent execution of RCU callbacks...
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 18:52:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201208175230.GB3916@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201208171927.GS2657@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72>
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 09:19:27AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 04:54:57PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 06:58:10AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > Hello, Frederic,
> > >
> > > Boqun just asked if RCU callbacks ran in BH-disabled context to avoid
> > > concurrent execution of the same callback. Of course, this raises the
> > > question of whether a self-posting callback can have two instances of
> > > itself running concurrently while a CPU is in the process of transitioning
> > > between softirq and rcuo invocation of callbacks.
> > >
> > > I believe that the answer is "no" because BH-disabled context is
> > > an implicit RCU read-side critical section. Therefore, the initial
> > > invocation of the RCU callback must complete in order for a new grace
> > > period to complete, and a new grace period must complete before the
> > > second invocation of that same callback to start.
> > >
> > > Does that make sense, or am I missing something?
> >
> > Sounds like a good explanation. But then why are we actually calling
> > the entire rcu_do_batch() under BH-disabled context? Was it to quieten
> > lockdep against rcu_callback_map ?
>
> Inertia and lack of complaints about it. ;-)
>
> Plus when called from softirq, neither local_bh_disable() nor
> rcu_read_lock() is necessary, and so represents pointless overhead.
>
> > Wouldn't rcu_read_lock() around callbacks invocation be enough? Or is
> > there another reason for the BH-disabled context that I'm missing?
>
> There are likely to be callback functions that use spin_lock() instead
> of spin_lock_bh() because they know that they are invoked in BH-disabled
> context.
Ah right. So perhaps we can keep local_bh_disable() instead.
>
> But what does this change help?
It reduces the code scope running with BH disabled.
Also narrowing down helps to understand what it actually protects.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-08 17:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-08 14:58 One potential issue with concurrent execution of RCU callbacks Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-08 15:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-12-08 17:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-08 17:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2020-12-08 18:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-08 22:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-12-09 0:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-09 2:14 ` Boqun Feng
2020-12-10 0:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
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