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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: boqun.feng@gmail.com, rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: One potential issue with concurrent execution of RCU callbacks...
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 18:52:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201208175230.GB3916@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201208171927.GS2657@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72>

On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 09:19:27AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 04:54:57PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 06:58:10AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > Hello, Frederic,
> > > 
> > > Boqun just asked if RCU callbacks ran in BH-disabled context to avoid
> > > concurrent execution of the same callback.  Of course, this raises the
> > > question of whether a self-posting callback can have two instances of
> > > itself running concurrently while a CPU is in the process of transitioning
> > > between softirq and rcuo invocation of callbacks.
> > > 
> > > I believe that the answer is "no" because BH-disabled context is
> > > an implicit RCU read-side critical section.  Therefore, the initial
> > > invocation of the RCU callback must complete in order for a new grace
> > > period to complete, and a new grace period must complete before the
> > > second invocation of that same callback to start.
> > > 
> > > Does that make sense, or am I missing something?
> > 
> > Sounds like a good explanation. But then why are we actually calling
> > the entire rcu_do_batch() under BH-disabled context? Was it to quieten
> > lockdep against rcu_callback_map ?
> 
> Inertia and lack of complaints about it.  ;-)
> 
> Plus when called from softirq, neither local_bh_disable() nor
> rcu_read_lock() is necessary, and so represents pointless overhead.
> 
> > Wouldn't rcu_read_lock() around callbacks invocation be enough? Or is
> > there another reason for the BH-disabled context that I'm missing?
> 
> There are likely to be callback functions that use spin_lock() instead
> of spin_lock_bh() because they know that they are invoked in BH-disabled
> context.

Ah right. So perhaps we can keep local_bh_disable() instead.

> 
> But what does this change help?

It reduces the code scope running with BH disabled.
Also narrowing down helps to understand what it actually protects.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-08 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-08 14:58 One potential issue with concurrent execution of RCU callbacks Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-08 15:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-12-08 17:19   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-08 17:52     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2020-12-08 18:24       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-08 22:04         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-12-09  0:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-09  2:14           ` Boqun Feng
2020-12-10  0:50             ` Paul E. McKenney

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