Is there a reason not to use -@ to compile devicetrees ?

Is there a reason not to use -@ to compile devicetrees ?

[Vincent Pelletier]

Hello,

Distro: https://raspi.debian.net/ (sid)
Hardware: Raspberry Pi Zero W
Kernel version: 5.9.11 (linux-image-5.9.0-4-rpi)

To access a device connected to my pi, I need the spi0 bus, and would
like to not be doing GPIO bit-banging when there are perfectly good
spi modules capable of using the SPI alternative mode of these pins.

spi0 is declared in the vanilla devicetree for this device:
arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm2835-rpi-zero-w.dts ends up including
arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm283x.dtsi which contains:
                spi: spi@7e204000 {
                        compatible = "brcm,bcm2835-spi";
                        reg = <0x7e204000 0x200>;
                        interrupts = <2 22>;
                        clocks = <&clocks BCM2835_CLOCK_VPU>;
                        #address-cells = <1>;
                        #size-cells = <0>;
                        status = "disabled";
                };
To my new-to-devicetree eye, this looks like this is intended to be
overridden, at least with a
  status = "okay";
property (although a bit more is needed).
As I believe is the correct way, I wrote a devicetree overlay doing
this and a bit more in order to enable this bus and one of its device
(the one matching the chip-select monitored by the board I connected).

To confirm that I had no typo in my symbol names I ran fdtoverlay with
the packaged device tree binary, plus my overlay, but could not get it
to work, until I took a closer look at the packaged device tree and
realised it lacks a __symbols__ section.
So I pulled the source, added "-@" to the cmd_dtc rule in
scripts/Makefile.lib, built the dtb, tested fdtoverlay against it and
voila, it worked. I could then reboot with this devicetree, load my
overlay and use spi0 with no further change.

So now I wonder why this option is not enabled while there are these
sections which seem to not be usable without an overlay ?
And further, why it does not seem to be possible to enable with a
kernel config option ?

I must be missing something obvious, but I'm still failing to see it.

Regards,
-- 
Vincent Pelletier

Re: Is there a reason not to use -@ to compile devicetrees ?

[Vincent Pelletier]

Ping ?

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 14:47:07 +0000, Vincent Pelletier <plr.vincent@gmail.com> wrote:
> Distro: https://raspi.debian.net/ (sid)
> Hardware: Raspberry Pi Zero W
> Kernel version: 5.9.11 (linux-image-5.9.0-4-rpi)
> 
> To access a device connected to my pi, I need the spi0 bus, and would
> like to not be doing GPIO bit-banging when there are perfectly good
> spi modules capable of using the SPI alternative mode of these pins.
> 
> spi0 is declared in the vanilla devicetree for this device:
> arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm2835-rpi-zero-w.dts ends up including
> arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm283x.dtsi which contains:
>                 spi: spi@7e204000 {
>                         compatible = "brcm,bcm2835-spi";
>                         reg = <0x7e204000 0x200>;
>                         interrupts = <2 22>;
>                         clocks = <&clocks BCM2835_CLOCK_VPU>;
>                         #address-cells = <1>;
>                         #size-cells = <0>;
>                         status = "disabled";
>                 };
> To my new-to-devicetree eye, this looks like this is intended to be
> overridden, at least with a
>   status = "okay";
> property (although a bit more is needed).
> As I believe is the correct way, I wrote a devicetree overlay doing
> this and a bit more in order to enable this bus and one of its device
> (the one matching the chip-select monitored by the board I connected).
> 
> To confirm that I had no typo in my symbol names I ran fdtoverlay with
> the packaged device tree binary, plus my overlay, but could not get it
> to work, until I took a closer look at the packaged device tree and
> realised it lacks a __symbols__ section.
> So I pulled the source, added "-@" to the cmd_dtc rule in
> scripts/Makefile.lib, built the dtb, tested fdtoverlay against it and
> voila, it worked. I could then reboot with this devicetree, load my
> overlay and use spi0 with no further change.
> 
> So now I wonder why this option is not enabled while there are these
> sections which seem to not be usable without an overlay ?
> And further, why it does not seem to be possible to enable with a
> kernel config option ?
> 
> I must be missing something obvious, but I'm still failing to see it.
-- 
Vincent Pelletier

Re: Is there a reason not to use -@ to compile devicetrees ?

[Rob Herring]

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 7:47 AM Vincent Pelletier <plr.vincent@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Distro: https://raspi.debian.net/ (sid)
> Hardware: Raspberry Pi Zero W
> Kernel version: 5.9.11 (linux-image-5.9.0-4-rpi)
>
> To access a device connected to my pi, I need the spi0 bus, and would
> like to not be doing GPIO bit-banging when there are perfectly good
> spi modules capable of using the SPI alternative mode of these pins.
>
> spi0 is declared in the vanilla devicetree for this device:
> arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm2835-rpi-zero-w.dts ends up including
> arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm283x.dtsi which contains:
>                 spi: spi@7e204000 {
>                         compatible = "brcm,bcm2835-spi";
>                         reg = <0x7e204000 0x200>;
>                         interrupts = <2 22>;
>                         clocks = <&clocks BCM2835_CLOCK_VPU>;
>                         #address-cells = <1>;
>                         #size-cells = <0>;
>                         status = "disabled";
>                 };
> To my new-to-devicetree eye, this looks like this is intended to be
> overridden, at least with a
>   status = "okay";
> property (although a bit more is needed).
> As I believe is the correct way, I wrote a devicetree overlay doing
> this and a bit more in order to enable this bus and one of its device
> (the one matching the chip-select monitored by the board I connected).
>
> To confirm that I had no typo in my symbol names I ran fdtoverlay with
> the packaged device tree binary, plus my overlay, but could not get it
> to work, until I took a closer look at the packaged device tree and
> realised it lacks a __symbols__ section.
> So I pulled the source, added "-@" to the cmd_dtc rule in
> scripts/Makefile.lib, built the dtb, tested fdtoverlay against it and
> voila, it worked. I could then reboot with this devicetree, load my
> overlay and use spi0 with no further change.
>
> So now I wonder why this option is not enabled while there are these
> sections which seem to not be usable without an overlay ?
> And further, why it does not seem to be possible to enable with a
> kernel config option ?
>
> I must be missing something obvious, but I'm still failing to see it.

Read the last time this came up:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-devicetree/71fb0ff289e84c55bd92ecd96bc9aa76@svr-chch-ex1.atlnz.lc/