From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
valentin.schneider@arm.com, qais.yousef@arm.com,
dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
bsegall@google.com, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com,
benbjiang@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] sched/fair: Fix select_idle_cpu()s cost accounting
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 13:59:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210109135953.GF3592@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X/i+3G53+AH4FfM2@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 09:21:48PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 10:27:38AM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
>
> > 1. avg_scan_cost is now based on the average scan cost of a rq but
> > avg_idle is still scaled to the domain size. This is a bit problematic
> > because it's comparing scan cost of a single rq with the estimated
> > average idle time of a domain. As a result, the scan depth can be much
> > larger than it was before the patch and led to some regressions.
>
> > @@ -6164,25 +6164,25 @@ static int select_idle_cpu(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, int t
> > */
> > avg_idle = this_rq()->avg_idle / 512;
> > avg_cost = this_sd->avg_scan_cost + 1;
> > -
> > - span_avg = sd->span_weight * avg_idle;
> > - if (span_avg > 4*avg_cost)
> > - nr = div_u64(span_avg, avg_cost);
> > - else
> > + nr = div_u64(avg_idle, avg_cost);
> > + if (nr < 4)
> > nr = 4;
>
> Oooh, could it be I simply didn't remember how that code was supposed to
> work and should kick my (much) younger self for not writing a comment?
>
> Consider:
>
> span_weight * avg_idle avg_cost
> nr = ---------------------- = avg_idle / ----------
> avg_cost span_weigt
>
> Where: avg_cost / span_weight ~= cost-per-rq
>
This would definitely make sense and I even evaluated it but the nature
of avg_idle and the scale it works at (up to 2*sched_migration_cost)
just ended up generating lunatic values far outside the size of the domain
size. Fitting that to the domain size just ended up looking silly too and
avg_cost does not decay. Still, in principle, it's the right direction,
it's just not what the code does right now.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-09 14:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-14 16:48 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] select_idle_sibling() wreckage Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-14 16:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] sched/fair: Fix select_idle_cpu()s cost accounting Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-15 3:36 ` Li, Aubrey
2020-12-15 7:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-15 11:45 ` Mel Gorman
2020-12-15 12:13 ` Li, Aubrey
2021-01-08 10:27 ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-08 13:01 ` Qais Yousef
2021-01-08 13:47 ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-08 13:41 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-08 14:40 ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-08 15:10 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-08 16:14 ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-11 14:36 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-11 15:58 ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-08 19:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-09 14:12 ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-11 14:39 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-08 19:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-11 14:52 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-08 20:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-09 13:59 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2020-12-14 16:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] sched/fair: Make select_idle_cpu() proportional to cores Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-23 13:31 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-12-14 16:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] sched/fair: Remove select_idle_smt() Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-14 16:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] sched/fair: Merge select_idle_core/cpu() Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-14 16:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] sched/fair: SIS_PROP the idle core scan Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-16 12:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] select_idle_sibling() wreckage Li, Aubrey
2020-12-16 18:07 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-12-23 13:23 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-04 15:40 ` Mel Gorman
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