From: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
Gautham R Shenoy <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Parth Shah <parth@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Prefer idle CPU to cache affinity
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 19:07:20 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210301133720.GI2028034@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab046b9d5bcd29b2eb759cd999e2f578a683c673.camel@surriel.com>
* Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com> [2021-02-27 14:56:07]:
> > In the current situation where waker and previous CPUs are busy, but
> > only one of its LLC has an idle CPU, Scheduler may end up picking a
> > LLC
> > with no idle CPUs. To mitigate this, add a new step between 1 and 2
> > where Scheduler compares idle CPUs in waker and previous LLCs and
> > picks
> > the appropriate one.
>
> I like that idea a lot. That could also solve some of the
Thanks.
> issues sometimes observed on multi-node x86 systems, and
> probably on the newer AMD chips with several LLCs on chip.
>
Okay.
> > + if (sched_feat(WA_WAKER) && tnr_busy < tllc_size)
> > + return this_cpu;
>
> I wonder if we need to use a slightly lower threshold on
> very large LLCs, both to account for the fact that the
> select_idle_cpu code may not find the single idle CPU
> among a dozen busy ones, or because on a system with
> hyperthreading we may often be better off picking another
> LLC for HT contention issues?
>
> Maybe we could use "tnr_busy * 4 <
> tllc_size * 3" or
> something like that?
>
> That way we will only try to find the last 5 idle
> CPUs
> in a 22 CPU LLC if the other LLC also has fewer than 6
> idle cores.
>
> That might increase our chances of finding an idle CPU
> with SIS_PROP enabled, and might allow WA_WAKER to be
> true by default.
Agree we need to be conservative esp if we want to make WA_WAKER on by
default. I would still like to hear from other people if they think its ok
to enable it by default. I wonder if enabling it by default can cause some
load imbalances leading to more active load balance down the line. I
haven't benchmarked with WA_WAKER enabled.
Thanks Rik for your inputs.
--
Thanks and Regards
Srikar Dronamraju
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-01 13:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-26 16:40 [PATCH] sched/fair: Prefer idle CPU to cache affinity Srikar Dronamraju
2021-02-27 19:56 ` Rik van Riel
2021-03-01 13:37 ` Srikar Dronamraju [this message]
2021-03-01 15:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-01 17:06 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2021-03-01 17:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-02 7:39 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2021-03-02 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-02 10:05 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2021-03-01 15:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-01 17:08 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2021-03-02 9:53 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2021-03-02 10:04 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2021-03-08 13:52 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-03-10 5:52 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2021-03-10 15:37 ` Vincent Guittot
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