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From: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
	Gautham R Shenoy <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Parth Shah <parth@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Prefer idle CPU to cache affinity
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 19:07:20 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210301133720.GI2028034@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab046b9d5bcd29b2eb759cd999e2f578a683c673.camel@surriel.com>

* Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com> [2021-02-27 14:56:07]:

> > In the current situation where waker and previous CPUs are busy, but
> > only one of its LLC has an idle CPU, Scheduler may end up picking a
> > LLC
> > with no idle CPUs. To mitigate this, add a new step between 1 and 2
> > where Scheduler compares idle CPUs in waker and previous LLCs and
> > picks
> > the appropriate one.
> 
> I like that idea a lot. That could also solve some of the

Thanks.

> issues sometimes observed on multi-node x86 systems, and
> probably on the newer AMD chips with several LLCs on chip.
> 

Okay.

> > +	if (sched_feat(WA_WAKER) && tnr_busy < tllc_size)
> > +		return this_cpu;
> 
> I wonder if we need to use a slightly lower threshold on
> very large LLCs, both to account for the fact that the
> select_idle_cpu code may not find the single idle CPU
> among a dozen busy ones, or because on a system with
> hyperthreading we may often be better off picking another
> LLC for HT contention issues?

> 
> Maybe we could use "tnr_busy * 4 <
> tllc_size * 3" or
> something like that?
> 
> That way we will only try to find the last 5 idle
> CPUs
> in a 22 CPU LLC if the other LLC also has fewer than 6
> idle cores.
> 
> That might increase our chances of finding an idle CPU
> with SIS_PROP enabled, and might allow WA_WAKER to be
> true by default.

Agree we need to be conservative esp if we want to make WA_WAKER on by
default. I would still like to hear from other people if they think its ok
to enable it by default. I wonder if enabling it by default can cause some
load imbalances leading to more active load balance down the line.  I
haven't benchmarked with WA_WAKER enabled.

Thanks Rik for your inputs.

-- 
Thanks and Regards
Srikar Dronamraju

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-01 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-26 16:40 [PATCH] sched/fair: Prefer idle CPU to cache affinity Srikar Dronamraju
2021-02-27 19:56 ` Rik van Riel
2021-03-01 13:37   ` Srikar Dronamraju [this message]
2021-03-01 15:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-01 17:06     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2021-03-01 17:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-02  7:39         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2021-03-02  9:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-02 10:05             ` Srikar Dronamraju
2021-03-01 15:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-01 17:08   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2021-03-02  9:53 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2021-03-02 10:04   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2021-03-08 13:52 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-03-10  5:52   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2021-03-10 15:37     ` Vincent Guittot

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