Re: Testers wanted: Atom netbooks with x86_64 disabled by BIOS

Willy Tarreau
2021-03-28T06:19:53Z

Hi Thomas,

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 03:07:24AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 28 2021 at 00:25, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 10:13:22PM +0100, Mateusz Jonczyk wrote:
> > FWIW I tested on my ASUS 1025C which runs on an Atom N2600 forced to
> > 32-bit. I had already tried in the past but wanted to give it a try
> > again in case I'd have missed anything. Sadly it didn't work, I'm
> > still getting the "requires an x86-64 CPU" message.
> >
> > Given these machines were really cheap, I've always suspected that they
> > employ cheaper, low-grade CPUs, possibly having been subject to reduced
> > tests where x86_64-specific parts were not even verified and might be
> > defective. This may explain why they forcefully disable long mode there,
> > but that's just speculation.
>
> There are some of these '32bit only' CPUs out there in the wild which
> actually support long mode. Some of them even do not have the long mode
> CPUID bit fused out.

Yes, I'm aware of this as well. We might even have talked to the same
"victim" :-)

> But whether it works is a different story:
>
> - If the CPUID bit is on, then the chance is high, but it runs out of
> spec (guarantee wise)
>
> - If it's off is still might work by some definition of work as they
> might have fused off more or there are actual defects in some 64bit
> only area which are irrelevant when in 32bit mode.
>
> Even if it could work perfectly fine, the BIOS/SMM/ucode can prevent
> switching to long mode.
>
> It's a lost cause.

I agree. While I bought this netbook to have a 64-bit CPU and was extremely
disappointed, after seeing that it was not just a matter of "oops we forgot
to enable LM", I concluded that it was pointless to try to go further, as I
would never trust it anyway.

Cheers,
Willy