From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0621FC433ED for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 17:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6425613F4 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 17:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S238083AbhD0RKe (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:10:34 -0400 Received: from wtarreau.pck.nerim.net ([62.212.114.60]:52588 "EHLO 1wt.eu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S235512AbhD0RKc (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:10:32 -0400 Received: (from willy@localhost) by pcw.home.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 13RH9PWc002966; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:09:25 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:09:25 +0200 From: Willy Tarreau To: Giacomo Tesio Cc: Kangjie Lu , open list , Qiushi Wu , Aditya Pakki Subject: Re: An open letter to the Linux community Message-ID: <20210427170925.GA2827@1wt.eu> References: <20210427145347.00003846@tesio.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210427145347.00003846@tesio.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 02:53:47PM +0200, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > The corporations behind the Linux kernel didn't take it well > (you wasted their time and money! you outsmarted them! how dare!), > but the hypocrisy in your commits is not the one you revealed. Do you happen to have the slightest form of consideration for all these individuals who review patches in the evening on their spare time while you're comfortably watching TV in your sofa, probably from a device running Linux by the way ? Because this is exactly the problem here. It's always been known that more reviewers would be cool, but interestingly, nobody has the time to do so. However it looks like some still have time and budget to send traps and point the finger saying "hey look, they didn't read fast enough, I got them!". It's like pulling crutches from a single-legged person trying to cross the street, watch her go and laugh once she falls! Demonstrating a well-known weakness is easy. Pointing the finger is easy. Helping however, requires another level, like kindly offering help to that person to cross the street without the fear of being looked at by others if you don't proceed in the best way. But surely you don't have time or you're not qualified for this, because I don't remember having seen you any single time responding to a patch here. Or maybe you've just figured that you indeed have some time to help with this in the future and it was an awkward offering from you to kindly propose your help with reviews, in which case I'm sure a lot of developers will be pleased ? Willy