From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.com>,
"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
"Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
"wangzhou1@hisilicon.com" <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>,
"zhangfei.gao@linaro.org" <zhangfei.gao@linaro.org>,
"vkoul@kernel.org" <vkoul@kernel.org>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] iommu/sva: Tighten SVA bind API with explicit flags
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 16:20:14 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210513192014.GU1002214@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e9dd39aa8a144c23beffa5ca58936385@intel.com>
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 07:14:54PM +0000, Luck, Tony wrote:
> > If you want this then be explicit about what it is you are making when
> > building the API. Don't try to hide it under some generic idea of
> > "kernel PCI DMA SVA"
>
> So, a special API call (that Dave can call from IDXD) to set up this
> kernel PASID. With suitable documentation to explain the scope.
> Maybe with a separate CONFIG option so it can be completely
> stubbed out (IDXD does *NOT* "select" this option ... users have
> to explicitly pick it).
>
> > I could easily see an admin option to "turn this off" entirely as
> > being too dangerous, especially if the users have no interest in IDXD.
>
> And a kernel command line option to block IDXD from using that
> special API ... for users on generic kernels who want to block
> this use model (but still use IDXD in non-kernel cases). Users
> who don't want IDXD at all can block loading of the driver.
A generic IOMMU API should not be IDXD specific, if you want to allow
some special "integrated to the SOC accelerator PASID" mode then it
should be a global IOMMU API and any security toggles for it should be
global and unrelated to IDXD.
Concurrently it seems necessary to have a solution for secure kernel
PASID use under the DMA API and reserve this special mode for getting
higher performance.
I think you need to come with a proposal, and it is a bit alarming a
noteworthy security hole was added under the guise of "kernel SVA" :(
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-13 19:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-10 13:25 [PATCH v4 0/2] Simplify and restrict IOMMU SVA APIs Jacob Pan
2021-05-10 13:25 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] iommu/sva: Tighten SVA bind API with explicit flags Jacob Pan
2021-05-10 23:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-11 3:31 ` Jacob Pan
2021-05-11 11:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-11 16:14 ` Jacob Pan
2021-05-11 16:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-11 18:05 ` Jacob Pan
2021-05-11 19:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-12 6:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-13 13:00 ` Jacob Pan
2021-05-13 13:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-13 15:10 ` Jacob Pan
2021-05-13 16:44 ` Luck, Tony
2021-05-13 17:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-13 18:53 ` Luck, Tony
2021-05-13 19:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-13 19:14 ` Luck, Tony
2021-05-13 19:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-05-13 19:46 ` Jacob Pan
2021-05-13 19:57 ` Luck, Tony
2021-05-13 20:22 ` Jacob Pan
2021-05-13 22:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-13 23:40 ` Jacob Pan
2021-05-17 14:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-19 15:46 ` Jacob Pan
2021-05-12 10:18 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-05-10 13:25 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] iommu/sva: Remove mm parameter from SVA bind API Jacob Pan
2021-05-12 10:24 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
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