From: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Cc: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
john.johansen@canonical.com, selinux@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-audit@redhat.com,
casey.schaufler@intel.com, Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v26 22/25] Audit: Add new record for multiple process LSM attributes
Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 08:58:59 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210522125859.GF447005@madcap2.tricolour.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhR9OPbNCLaKpCEt9mES8yWXpNoTBrgnKW2ER+vEkuNQwQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 2021-05-21 22:20, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 6:05 PM Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> wrote:
> > On 5/21/2021 1:19 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 4:32 PM Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> wrote:
> > >> Create a new audit record type to contain the subject information
> > >> when there are multiple security modules that require such data.
> > >> This record is linked with the same timestamp and serial number
> > >> using the audit_alloc_local() mechanism.
> > > The record is linked with the other associated records into a single
> > > event, it doesn't matter if it gets the timestamp/serial from
> > > audit_alloc_local() or an existing audit event, e.g. ongoing syscall.
> > >
> > >> The record is produced only in cases where there is more than one
> > >> security module with a process "context".
> > >> In cases where this record is produced the subj= fields of
> > >> other records in the audit event will be set to "subj=?".
> > >>
> > >> An example of the MAC_TASK_CONTEXTS (1420) record is:
> > >>
> > >> type=UNKNOWN[1420]
> > >> msg=audit(1600880931.832:113)
> > >> subj_apparmor==unconfined
> > > It should be just a single "=" in the line above.
> >
> > AppArmor provides the 2nd "=" as part of the subject context.
> > What's here is correct. I won't argue that it won't case confusion
> > or worse.
>
> Oh, wow, okay. That needs to change at some point but I agree it's
> out of scope for this patchset. In the meantime I might suggest using
> something other than AppArmor as an example here.
Similar but not identical situation to:
BUG: INTEGRITY_POLICY_RULE violates audit message format · Issue #113 · linux-audit/audit-kernel
https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/113
> > >> subj_smack=_
> > >>
> > >> There will be a subj_$LSM= entry for each security module
> > >> LSM that supports the secid_to_secctx and secctx_to_secid
> > >> hooks. The BPF security module implements secid/secctx
> > >> translation hooks, so it has to be considered to provide a
> > >> secctx even though it may not actually do so.
> > >>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
> > >> To: paul@paul-moore.com
> > >> To: linux-audit@redhat.com
> > >> To: rgb@redhat.com
> > >> Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
> > >> ---
> > >> drivers/android/binder.c | 2 +-
> > >> include/linux/audit.h | 24 ++++++++
> > >> include/linux/security.h | 16 ++++-
> > >> include/net/netlabel.h | 3 +-
> > >> include/net/scm.h | 2 +-
> > >> include/net/xfrm.h | 13 +++-
> > >> include/uapi/linux/audit.h | 1 +
> > >> kernel/audit.c | 80 ++++++++++++++++++-------
> > >> kernel/audit.h | 3 +
> > >> kernel/auditfilter.c | 6 +-
> > >> kernel/auditsc.c | 75 ++++++++++++++++++++---
> > >> net/ipv4/ip_sockglue.c | 2 +-
> > >> net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_netlink.c | 4 +-
> > >> net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_standalone.c | 2 +-
> > >> net/netfilter/nfnetlink_queue.c | 2 +-
> > >> net/netlabel/netlabel_domainhash.c | 4 +-
> > >> net/netlabel/netlabel_unlabeled.c | 24 ++++----
> > >> net/netlabel/netlabel_user.c | 20 ++++---
> > >> net/netlabel/netlabel_user.h | 6 +-
> > >> net/xfrm/xfrm_policy.c | 10 ++--
> > >> net/xfrm/xfrm_state.c | 20 ++++---
> > >> security/integrity/ima/ima_api.c | 7 ++-
> > >> security/integrity/integrity_audit.c | 6 +-
> > >> security/security.c | 46 +++++++++-----
> > >> security/smack/smackfs.c | 3 +-
> > >> 25 files changed, 274 insertions(+), 107 deletions(-)
> > > ...
> > >
> > >> diff --git a/include/linux/audit.h b/include/linux/audit.h
> > >> index 97cd7471e572..229cd71fbf09 100644
> > >> --- a/include/linux/audit.h
> > >> +++ b/include/linux/audit.h
> > >> @@ -386,6 +395,19 @@ static inline void audit_ptrace(struct task_struct *t)
> > >> __audit_ptrace(t);
> > >> }
> > >>
> > >> +static inline struct audit_context *audit_alloc_for_lsm(gfp_t gfp)
> > >> +{
> > >> + struct audit_context *context = audit_context();
> > >> +
> > >> + if (context)
> > >> + return context;
> > >> +
> > >> + if (lsm_multiple_contexts())
> > >> + return audit_alloc_local(gfp);
> > >> +
> > >> + return NULL;
> > >> +}
> > > See my other comments, but this seems wrong at face value. The
> > > additional LSM record should happen as part of the existing audit log
> > > functions.
> >
> > I'm good with that. But if you defer calling audit_alloc_local()
> > until you know you need it you may be in a place where you can't
> > associate the new context with the event. I think. I will have
> > another go at it.
>
> I can't think of a case where you would ever not know if you need to
> allocate a local context at the start. If you are unsure, get in
> touch and we can work it out.
>
> > > I think I was distracted with the local context issue and I've lost
> > > track of the details here, perhaps it's best to fix the local context
> > > issue first (that should be a big change to this patch) and then we
> > > can take another look.
> >
> > I really need to move forward. I'll give allocation of local contexts
> > as necessary in audit_log_task_context() another shot.
>
> I appreciate the desire to move forward, and while I can't speak for
> everyone, I'll do my best to work with you to find a good solution.
> If you get stuck or aren't sure you know how to reach me :)
>
> As a start, I might suggest looking at some of the recent audit
> container ID patchsets from Richard; while they have had some issues,
> they should serve as a basic example of what we mean when we talk
> about "local contexts" and how they should be used.
>
> --
> paul moore
> www.paul-moore.com
>
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- RGB
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-22 12:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20210513200807.15910-1-casey.ref@schaufler-ca.com>
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 00/25] LSM: Module stacking for AppArmor Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 01/25] LSM: Infrastructure management of the sock security Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 02/25] LSM: Add the lsmblob data structure Casey Schaufler
2021-05-22 8:39 ` Mickaël Salaün
2021-05-25 23:52 ` Casey Schaufler
2021-05-26 9:53 ` Mickaël Salaün
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 03/25] LSM: provide lsm name and id slot mappings Casey Schaufler
2021-05-14 19:00 ` Kees Cook
2021-05-21 20:18 ` Paul Moore
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 04/25] IMA: avoid label collisions with stacked LSMs Casey Schaufler
2021-05-14 19:00 ` Kees Cook
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 05/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_audit_rule_match Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 06/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_kernel_act_as Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 07/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_secctx_to_secid Casey Schaufler
2021-05-14 19:03 ` Kees Cook
2021-05-21 20:18 ` Paul Moore
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 08/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_secid_to_secctx Casey Schaufler
2021-05-14 19:05 ` Kees Cook
2021-05-21 20:18 ` Paul Moore
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 09/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_ipc_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 10/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_task_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 11/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_inode_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 12/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_cred_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 13/25] IMA: Change internal interfaces to use lsmblobs Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 14/25] LSM: Specify which LSM to display Casey Schaufler
2021-05-14 19:23 ` Kees Cook
2021-05-17 19:52 ` Casey Schaufler
2021-05-21 20:19 ` Paul Moore
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 15/25] LSM: Ensure the correct LSM context releaser Casey Schaufler
2021-05-21 20:19 ` Paul Moore
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 16/25] LSM: Use lsmcontext in security_secid_to_secctx Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:07 ` [PATCH v26 17/25] LSM: Use lsmcontext in security_inode_getsecctx Casey Schaufler
2021-05-14 19:24 ` Kees Cook
2021-05-13 20:08 ` [PATCH v26 18/25] LSM: security_secid_to_secctx in netlink netfilter Casey Schaufler
2021-05-21 20:19 ` Paul Moore
2021-05-13 20:08 ` [PATCH v26 19/25] NET: Store LSM netlabel data in a lsmblob Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:08 ` [PATCH v26 20/25] LSM: Verify LSM display sanity in binder Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:08 ` [PATCH v26 21/25] audit: add support for non-syscall auxiliary records Casey Schaufler
2021-05-21 20:19 ` Paul Moore
2021-05-13 20:08 ` [PATCH v26 22/25] Audit: Add new record for multiple process LSM attributes Casey Schaufler
2021-05-21 20:19 ` Paul Moore
2021-05-21 21:26 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2021-05-21 22:05 ` Casey Schaufler
2021-05-22 2:20 ` Paul Moore
2021-05-22 12:58 ` Richard Guy Briggs [this message]
2021-05-25 16:26 ` Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:08 ` [PATCH v26 23/25] Audit: Add a new record for multiple object " Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:08 ` [PATCH v26 24/25] LSM: Add /proc attr entry for full LSM context Casey Schaufler
2021-05-13 20:08 ` [PATCH v26 25/25] AppArmor: Remove the exclusive flag Casey Schaufler
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