From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraju@codeaurora.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rcu/doc: Add a quick quiz to explain further why we need smp_mb__after_unlock_lock()
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 00:45:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210611224517.GA150081@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210611172514.GG4397@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>
On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:25:14AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 12:34:32PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> Glad to help, and I will reach out to you should someone make the mistake
> of insisting that I write something in French. ;-)
If that can help, we still have frenglish for neutral territories such as airports.
Not easy to master though...
>
> > > ++-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
> > > +
> > > This approach must be extended to include idle CPUs, which need
> > > RCU's grace-period memory ordering guarantee to extend to any
> > > RCU read-side critical sections preceding and following the current
>
> How about like this?
>
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
> | **Quick Quiz**: |
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
> | But the chain of rcu_node-structure lock acquisitions guarantees |
> | that new readers will see all of the updater's pre-grace-period |
> | accesses and also guarantees that the updater's post-grace-period |
> | accesses will see all of the old reader's accesses. So why do we |
> | need all of those calls to smp_mb__after_unlock_lock()? |
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
> | **Answer**: |
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
> | Because we must provide ordering for RCU's polling grace-period |
> | primitives, for example, get_state_synchronize_rcu() and |
> | poll_state_synchronize_rcu(). Consider this code:: |
> | |
> | CPU 0 CPU 1 |
> | ---- ---- |
> | WRITE_ONCE(X, 1) WRITE_ONCE(Y, 1) |
> | g = get_state_synchronize_rcu() smp_mb() |
> | while (!poll_state_synchronize_rcu(g)) r1 = READ_ONCE(X) |
> | continue; |
> | r0 = READ_ONCE(Y) |
> | |
> | RCU guarantees that the outcome r0 == 0 && r1 == 0 will not |
> | happen, even if CPU 1 is in an RCU extended quiescent state |
> | (idle or offline) and thus won't interact directly with the RCU |
> | core processing at all. |
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Very good, thanks a lot :o)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-11 22:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-10 15:50 [PATCH] rcu/doc: Add a quick quiz to explain further why we need smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() Frederic Weisbecker
2021-06-10 16:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-06-11 0:28 ` Akira Yokosawa
2021-06-11 0:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-06-11 0:58 ` Akira Yokosawa
2021-06-11 10:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-06-11 17:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-06-11 22:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2021-06-11 23:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
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