From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Nitesh Lal <nilal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/5] optionally sync per-CPU vmstats counter on return to userspace
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 08:52:35 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210702115235.GA238161@fuller.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2107020958430.201080@gentwo.de>
Hi Christoph,
On Fri, Jul 02, 2021 at 10:00:11AM +0200, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2021, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>
> > The logic to disable vmstat worker thread, when entering
> > nohz full, does not cover all scenarios. For example, it is possible
> > for the following to happen:
> >
> > 1) enter nohz_full, which calls refresh_cpu_vm_stats, syncing the stats.
> > 2) app runs mlock, which increases counters for mlock'ed pages.
> > 3) start -RT loop
> >
> > Since refresh_cpu_vm_stats from nohz_full logic can happen _before_
> > the mlock, vmstat shepherd can restart vmstat worker thread on
> > the CPU in question.
>
> Can we enter nohz_full after the app runs mlock?
>
> > To fix this, optionally sync the vmstat counters when returning
> > from userspace, controllable by a new "vmstat_sync" isolcpus
> > flags (default off).
> >
> > See individual patches for details.
>
> Wow... This is going into some performance sensitive VM counters here and
> adds code to their primitives.
Yes, but it should all be under static key (therefore the performance
impact, when isolcpus=vmstat_sync,CPULIST is not enabled, should be
zero) (if the patchset is correct! ...).
For the case where isolcpus=vmstat_sync is enabled, the most important
performance aspect is the latency spike which this patch is dealing
with.
> Isnt there a simpler solution that does not require this amount of
> changes?
The one other change (I can think of) which could solve this problem
would be allowing remote access to per-CPU vmstat counters
(requiring a local_lock to be added), which seems to be more complex
than this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-02 11:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-07-01 21:03 [patch 0/5] optionally sync per-CPU vmstats counter on return to userspace Marcelo Tosatti
2021-07-01 21:03 ` [patch 1/5] sched: isolation: introduce vmstat_sync isolcpu flags Marcelo Tosatti
2021-07-01 21:03 ` [patch 2/5] common entry: add hook for isolation to __syscall_exit_to_user_mode_work Marcelo Tosatti
2021-07-01 21:03 ` [patch 3/5] mm: vmstat: optionally flush per-CPU vmstat counters on return to userspace Marcelo Tosatti
2021-07-01 23:11 ` kernel test robot
2021-07-02 6:50 ` kernel test robot
2021-07-01 21:03 ` [patch 4/5] mm: vmstat: move need_update Marcelo Tosatti
2021-07-01 21:03 ` [patch 5/5] mm: vmstat_refresh: avoid queueing work item if cpu stats are clean Marcelo Tosatti
2021-07-02 4:10 ` kernel test robot
2021-07-02 4:43 ` kernel test robot
2021-07-02 8:00 ` [patch 0/5] optionally sync per-CPU vmstats counter on return to userspace Christoph Lameter
2021-07-02 11:52 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2021-07-02 11:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-07-05 14:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2021-07-05 14:45 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-07-02 12:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-07-02 15:28 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-07-06 13:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-07-06 14:05 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-07-06 14:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-07-06 14:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-07-06 16:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 16:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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