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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com, jjherne@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] s390/vfio-ap: do not use open locks during VFIO_GROUP_NOTIFY_SET_KVM notification
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 10:49:39 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210706134939.GX4459@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11025fe5-0751-b7ab-9250-b21c10382edd@linux.ibm.com>

On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 09:39:29AM -0400, Tony Krowiak wrote:
> 
> 
> On 7/5/21 10:13 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 01, 2021 at 10:28:52AM -0400, Tony Krowiak wrote:
> > 
> > > > I think Jason was talking about open coding locks in general.
> > > That may be so, but his comments were in support of his
> > > statement that the  mutex + wait_queue did not resolve
> > > the issue reported vai the lockdep splat because it turned
> > > off lockdep.
> > Rgiht, if this used to be proper locks and lockdep complained then
> > whatever potential deadlock it found is not magically removed by going
> > to a wait_queue. It just removes the lockdep annotations that would
> > identify the issue early.
> > 
> > This is why people should not open code locks, it completely defeats
> > lockdep. That alone is merit enough for this patch.
> 
> When you use the phrase "open code locks", to what are you
> specifically referring? I am confused by the use of the phrase
> "open code" in this context because open coding, at least as
> I understand it, has to do with data analysis.

"open code" here means you write the algorithm of a standard lock in
your own functions instead of calling the standard library.

Testing/setting the busy and sleeping on a wait_event is exactly a
standard lock.

Ie if I write

   for (len = 0; str[len] != 0; len++)
           ;

Then I have open coded strlen()

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-06 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-25 22:07 [PATCH] s390/vfio-ap: do not use open locks during VFIO_GROUP_NOTIFY_SET_KVM notification Tony Krowiak
2021-06-28 17:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28 18:20   ` Tony Krowiak
2021-06-28 18:22     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28 18:27       ` Tony Krowiak
2021-06-28 20:29 ` Halil Pasic
2021-06-30 14:31   ` Tony Krowiak
2021-06-30 22:39     ` Halil Pasic
2021-07-01 14:28       ` Tony Krowiak
2021-07-05 14:13         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-07-06 13:39           ` Tony Krowiak
2021-07-06 13:49             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-07-06 22:43               ` Tony Krowiak
2021-06-29 13:21 ` Jason J. Herne
2021-06-30 11:55   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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