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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: CGEL <cgel.zte@gmail.com>
Cc: yzaikin@google.com, liu.hailong6@zte.com.cn, mingo@redhat.com,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, bristot@redhat.com,
	mcgrof@kernel.org, keescook@chromium.org, pjt@google.com,
	yang.yang29@zte.com.cn, joshdon@google.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Zeal Robot <zealci@zte.com.cm>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Add a new version sysctl to control child runs first
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:42:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210913134245.GD4323@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <613f37fc.1c69fb81.9092.a4f5@mx.google.com>

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 11:37:31AM +0000, CGEL wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 10:13:54AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 04:12:23AM +0000, cgel.zte@gmail.com wrote:
> > > From: Yang Yang <yang.yang29@zte.com.cn>
> > > 
> > > The old version sysctl has some problems. First, it allows set value
> > > bigger than 1, which is unnecessary. Second, it didn't follow the
> > > rule of capabilities. Thirdly, it didn't use static key. This new
> > > version fixes all the problems.
> > 
> > Does any of that actually matter?
> 
> For the first problem, I think the reason why sysctl_schedstats() only
> accepts 0 or 1, is suitbale for sysctl_child_runs_first(). Since
> task_fork_fair() only need sysctl_sched_child_runs_first to be
> zero or non-zero.

This could potentially break people that already write a larger value in
it -- by accident or otherwise.

> For the second problem, I remember there is a rule: try to
> administration system through capilities but not depends on
> root identity. Just like sysctl_schedstats() or other
> sysctl_xx().

It seems entirely daft to me; those files are already 644, if root opens
the file and passes it along, it gets to keep the pieces.

> For the thirdly problem, sysctl_child_runs_first maynot changes
> often, but may accessed often, like static_key delayacct_key
> controlled by sysctl_delayacct().

Can you actually show it makes a performance difference in a fork
micro-bench? Given the amount of gunk fork() already does, I don't think
it'll matter one way or the other, and in that case, simpler is better.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-13 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-12  4:12 [PATCH] sched: Add a new version sysctl to control child runs first cgel.zte
2021-09-13  8:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-13 11:37   ` CGEL
2021-09-13 13:42     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-09-14  4:05       ` CGEL
     [not found]       ` <20210914040524.GA141438@cgel.zte@gmail.com>
2021-10-07  3:26         ` CGEL

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