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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
Cc: "Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraju@codeaurora.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/11] rcu/nocb: Make rcu_core() callbacks acceleration (de-)offloading safe
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 15:14:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211004131445.GA273854@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a6jsmy6o.mognet@arm.com>

On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 06:50:39PM +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> On 30/09/21 00:10, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > When callbacks are offloaded, the NOCB kthreads handle the callbacks
> > progression on behalf of rcu_core().
> >
> > However during the (de-)offloading process, the kthread may not be
> > entirely up to the task. As a result some callbacks grace period
> > sequence number may remain stale for a while because rcu_core() won't
> > take care of them either.
> >
> 
> But that should be taken care of at the tail end of the (de)offloading
> process, either by rcu_core() or by the NOCB kthreads, no?

True but the (de-)offloading process can take a random amount of time to
complete. During this time if the queue of callbacks is already huge, things
can explode.

> 
> Or is it e.g. in the case of offloading, we want to make sure an rcu_core()
> invocation runs callback acceleration because even if the NOCB GP/CB
> kthreads are being set up, we're not guaranteed is going to do that
> straight away?

Right.

> 
> IIUC it would be a similar case for deoffload when we stash the NOCB GP/CB
> kthreads and get rcu_core() running concurrently.

You got it!

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-04 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-29 22:10 [PATCH 00/11] rcu: Make rcu_core() safe in PREEMPT_RT with NOCB + a few other fixes Frederic Weisbecker
2021-09-29 22:10 ` [PATCH 01/11] rcu/nocb: Make local rcu_nocb_lock_irqsave() safe against concurrent deoffloading Frederic Weisbecker
2021-09-29 22:10 ` [PATCH 02/11] rcu/nocb: Prepare state machine for a new step Frederic Weisbecker
2021-10-01 17:48   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-10-04 11:35     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-09-29 22:10 ` [PATCH 03/11] rcu/nocb: Invoke rcu_core() at the start of deoffloading Frederic Weisbecker
2021-10-01 17:50   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-10-04 12:41     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-09-29 22:10 ` [PATCH 04/11] rcu/nocb: Make rcu_core() callbacks acceleration preempt-safe Frederic Weisbecker
2021-10-01 17:50   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-09-29 22:10 ` [PATCH 05/11] rcu/nocb: Make rcu_core() callbacks acceleration (de-)offloading safe Frederic Weisbecker
2021-10-01 17:50   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-10-04 13:14     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2021-09-29 22:10 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] rcu/nocb: Check a stable offloaded state to manipulate qlen_last_fqs_check Frederic Weisbecker
2021-09-29 22:10 ` [PATCH 07/11] rcu/nocb: Use appropriate rcu_nocb_lock_irqsave() Frederic Weisbecker
2021-10-01 17:50   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-10-04 13:33     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-09-29 22:10 ` [PATCH 08/11] rcu/nocb: Limit number of softirq callbacks only on softirq Frederic Weisbecker
2021-10-01 17:51   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-10-04 13:42     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-10-05 20:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-09-29 22:10 ` [PATCH 09/11] rcu: Fix callbacks processing time limit retaining cond_resched() Frederic Weisbecker
2021-10-01 17:51   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-09-29 22:10 ` [PATCH 10/11] rcu: Apply callbacks processing time limit only on softirq Frederic Weisbecker
2021-10-01 17:51   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-10-04 13:47     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-10-06 15:12       ` Valentin Schneider
2021-10-07  0:18         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-09-29 22:10 ` [PATCH 11/11] rcu/nocb: Don't invoke local rcu core on callback overload from nocb kthread Frederic Weisbecker
2021-09-30 15:37   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2021-10-11 12:11     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-10-01 17:47 ` [PATCH 00/11] rcu: Make rcu_core() safe in PREEMPT_RT with NOCB + a few other fixes Valentin Schneider
2021-10-08 14:03   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-10-08 15:49     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-06 15:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-10-07  8:49   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2021-10-07 19:12     ` Paul E. McKenney
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-10-11 14:51 [PATCH 00/11] rcu: Make rcu_core() safe in PREEMPT_RT with NOCB + a few other fixes v2 Frederic Weisbecker
2021-10-11 14:51 ` [PATCH 05/11] rcu/nocb: Make rcu_core() callbacks acceleration (de-)offloading safe Frederic Weisbecker

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