From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Valentin Schneider <Valentin.Schneider@arm.com>,
Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
Barry Song <song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Gautham Shenoy <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: Use weight of SD_NUMA domain in find_busiest_group
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 11:32:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211221113227.GT3366@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtDPu6r3dsSmY-ZDB0k4muoSk1a2J3=NKqoBG1y8aEwNYQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 11:53:50AM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 at 10:33, Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> wrote:
> >
> > find_busiest_group uses the child domain's group weight instead of
> > the sched_domain's weight that has SD_NUMA set when calculating the
> > allowed imbalance between NUMA nodes. This is wrong and inconsistent
> > with find_idlest_group.
>
> I agree that find_busiest_group and find_idlest_group should be
> consistent and use the same parameters but I wonder if sched_domain's
> weight is the right one to use instead of the target group's weight.
>
Ok
> IIRC, the goal of adjust_numa_imbalance is to keep some threads on the
> same node as long as we consider that there is no performance impact
> because of sharing resources as they can even take advantage of
> locality if they interact.
Yes.
> So we consider that tasks will not be
> impacted by sharing resources if they use less than 25% of the CPUs of
> a node. If we use the sd->span_weight instead, we consider that we can
> pack threads in the same node as long as it uses less than 25% of the
> CPUs in all nodes.
>
I assume you mean the target group weight instead of the node. The
primary resource we are concerned with is memory bandwidth and it's a
guess because we do not know for sure where memory channels are or how
they are configured in this context and it may or may not be correlated
with groups. I think using the group instead would deserve a series on
its own after settling on an imbalance number when there are multiple
LLCs per node.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-21 11:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-10 9:33 [PATCH v4 0/2] Adjust NUMA imbalance for multiple LLCs Mel Gorman
2021-12-10 9:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: Use weight of SD_NUMA domain in find_busiest_group Mel Gorman
2021-12-21 10:53 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-12-21 11:32 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2021-12-21 13:05 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-12-10 9:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Adjust the allowed NUMA imbalance when SD_NUMA spans multiple LLCs Mel Gorman
2021-12-13 8:28 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2021-12-13 13:01 ` Mel Gorman
2021-12-13 14:47 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2021-12-15 11:52 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2021-12-15 12:25 ` Mel Gorman
2021-12-16 18:33 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2021-12-20 11:12 ` Mel Gorman
2021-12-21 15:03 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2021-12-21 17:13 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-12-22 8:52 ` Jirka Hladky
2022-01-04 19:52 ` Jirka Hladky
2022-01-05 10:42 ` Mel Gorman
2022-01-05 10:49 ` Mel Gorman
2022-01-10 15:53 ` Vincent Guittot
2022-01-12 10:24 ` Mel Gorman
2021-12-17 19:54 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-12-01 15:18 [PATCH v3 0/2] Adjust NUMA imbalance for " Mel Gorman
2021-12-01 15:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: Use weight of SD_NUMA domain in find_busiest_group Mel Gorman
2021-12-03 8:38 ` Barry Song
2021-12-03 9:51 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2021-12-03 10:53 ` Mel Gorman
2021-11-25 15:19 [PATCH 0/2] Adjust NUMA imbalance for multiple LLCs Mel Gorman
2021-11-25 15:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: Use weight of SD_NUMA domain in find_busiest_group Mel Gorman
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