public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
To: Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, seanjc@google.com, tj@kernel.org,
	lizefan.x@bytedance.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, dmatlack@google.com,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: Move VM's worker kthreads back to the original cgroups before exiting.
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:04:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220105180420.GC6464@blackbody.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211222225350.1912249-1-vipinsh@google.com>

Hi Vipin.

On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 10:53:50PM +0000, Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com> wrote:
> VM worker kthreads can linger in the VM process's cgroup for sometime
> after KVM terminates the VM process.

Why is it a problem? And how long are we talking about?

> A VM process can terminate between the time window of exit_mm() to
> cgroup_exit(), leaving only worker kthreads in the cgroup.

Even kthreads should eventually have PF_EXITING set, they shouldd be
treated as "user-space" zombies by cgroups, i.e. mostly invisible (e.g.
it doesn't prevent rmdir'ing the cgroup).

(And after the last task_struct reference is gone, the cgroup structs
can be released too. Maybe the cause is holding the reference to the KVM
worker thread somewhere for too long.)

> Moving worker kthreads back to the original cgroup (kthreadd_task's
> cgroup) makes sure that cgroup is empty as soon as the main VM process
> is terminated.

BTW this used to be done for "user-space" tasks too (migrate to root
cgroup) but it was replaced with the less transactional "ignore zombies"
approach. So this change seems inconsistent.


Regards,
Michal

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-05 18:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-22 22:53 [PATCH v2] KVM: Move VM's worker kthreads back to the original cgroups before exiting Vipin Sharma
2021-12-28 17:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-18 19:53   ` Vipin Sharma
2022-01-05 18:04 ` Michal Koutný [this message]
2022-01-18 20:25   ` Vipin Sharma
2022-01-18 20:39     ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-19 18:02       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-01-19 18:30         ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-19 18:49           ` Vipin Sharma
2022-01-19 19:05             ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-20 15:05           ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-16 17:37             ` Vipin Sharma
2022-02-16 19:48               ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-25 17:37               ` Michal Koutný

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20220105180420.GC6464@blackbody.suse.cz \
    --to=mkoutny@suse.com \
    --cc=cgroups@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=dmatlack@google.com \
    --cc=hannes@cmpxchg.org \
    --cc=jiangshanlai@gmail.com \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=lizefan.x@bytedance.com \
    --cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
    --cc=seanjc@google.com \
    --cc=tj@kernel.org \
    --cc=vipinsh@google.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox