From: Raag Jadav <raagjadav@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Steen Hegelund <steen.hegelund@microchip.com>,
Bjarni Jonasson <bjarni.jonasson@microchip.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: phy: mscc: enable MAC SerDes autonegotiation
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 23:19:48 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220207174948.GA5183@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YgANBQjsrmK+T/N+@lunn.ch>
On Sun, Feb 06, 2022 at 07:01:41PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 06, 2022 at 10:42:34PM +0530, Raag Jadav wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 03:57:49PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 12:14:52PM +0530, Raag Jadav wrote:
> > > > Enable MAC SerDes autonegotiation to distinguish between
> > > > 1000BASE-X, SGMII and QSGMII MAC.
> > >
> > > How does autoneg help you here? It just tells you about duplex, pause
> > > etc. It does not indicate 1000BaseX, SGMII etc. The PHY should be
> > > using whatever mode it was passed in phydev->interface, which the MAC
> > > sets when it calls the connection function. If the PHY dynamically
> > > changes its host side mode as a result of what that line side is
> > > doing, it should also change phydev->interface. However, as far as i
> > > can see, the mscc does not do this.
> > >
> >
> > Once the PHY auto-negotiates parameters such as speed and duplex mode
> > with its link partner over the copper link as per IEEE 802.3 Clause 27,
> > the link partner’s capabilities are then transferred by PHY to MAC
> > over 1000BASE-X or SGMII link using the auto-negotiation functionality
> > defined in IEEE 802.3z Clause 37.
>
> None of this allows you to distinguish between 1000BASE-X, SGMII and
> QSGMII, which is what the commit message says.
>
I agree, the current commit message is misleading.
> It does allow you to get duplex, pause, and maybe speed via in band
> signalling. But you should also be getting the same information out of
> band, via the phylib callback.
>
> There are some MACs which don't seem to work correctly without the in
> band signalling, so maybe that is your problem? Please could you give
> more background about your problem, what MAC and PHY combination are
> you using, what problem you are seeing, etc.
>
MAC implementation[1] in a lot of NXP SoCs comes with in-band aneg enabled
by default, and it does expect Clause 37 auto-negotiation to complete
between MAC and PHY before the actual data transfer happens.
[1] https://community.nxp.com/pwmxy87654/attachments/pwmxy87654/t-series/3241/1/AN3869(1).pdf
I faced such issue while integrating VSC85xx PHY
with one of the recent NXP SoC having similar MAC implementation.
Not sure if this is a problem on MAC side or PHY side,
But having Clause 37 support should help in most cases I believe.
Cheers,
Raag
> Andrew
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-07 17:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-05 6:44 [PATCH] net: phy: mscc: enable MAC SerDes autonegotiation Raag Jadav
2022-02-05 14:57 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-02-06 17:12 ` Raag Jadav
2022-02-06 17:18 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-02-06 18:01 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-02-07 17:49 ` Raag Jadav [this message]
2022-02-08 2:09 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-02-08 15:57 ` Raag Jadav
2022-02-08 16:01 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-02-08 19:12 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-02-10 16:48 ` Raag Jadav
2022-02-08 9:45 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-02-08 15:53 ` Raag Jadav
2022-02-24 10:41 ` Siddharth Narayan Vadapalli
2022-02-24 10:48 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-02-26 7:23 ` Raag Jadav
2022-02-26 16:31 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-03-27 8:32 ` Raag Jadav
2022-03-24 10:06 ` Siddharth Vadapalli
2022-03-27 8:30 ` Raag Jadav
2022-03-28 8:13 ` Siddharth Vadapalli
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