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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Wen Yang <simon.wy@alibaba-inc.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] perf/x86: improve the event scheduling to avoid unnecessary pmu_stop/start
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:36:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220211113643.GT23216@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220210043930.34311-1-simon.wy@alibaba-inc.com>

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 12:39:30PM +0800, Wen Yang wrote:
> This issue has been there for a long time, we could reproduce it as follows:
> 
> 1, run a script that periodically collects perf data, eg:
> while true
> do
>     perf stat -e cache-misses,cache-misses,cache-misses -C 1 sleep 2
>     perf stat -e cache-misses -C 1 sleep 2
>     sleep 1
> done
> 
> 2, run another one to capture the IPC, eg:
> perf stat -e cycles:D,instructions:D  -C 1 -I 1000
> 
> Then we could observe that the counter used by cycles:D changes frequently:
> crash> struct  cpu_hw_events.n_events,assign,event_list,events  ffff88bf7f44f420
>   n_events = 3
>   assign = {33, 1, 32, 0, 1, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0}
>   event_list = {0xffff88bf77b85000, 0xffff88b72db82000, 0xffff88b72db85800, 0xffff88ff6cfcb000, 0xffff88ff609f1800, 0xffff88ff609f1800, 0xffff88ff5f46a800, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}
>   events = {0x0, 0xffff88b72db82000, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0xffff88b72db85800, 0xffff88bf77b85000, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}
> 
> crash> struct  cpu_hw_events.n_events,assign,event_list,events  ffff88bf7f44f420
>   n_events = 6
>   assign = {33, 3, 32, 0, 1, 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0}
>   event_list = {0xffff88bf77b85000, 0xffff88b72db82000, 0xffff88b72db85800, 0xffff88bf46c34000, 0xffff88bf46c35000, 0xffff88bf46c30000, 0xffff88ff5f46a800, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}
>   events = {0xffff88bf46c34000, 0xffff88bf46c35000, 0xffff88bf46c30000, 0xffff88b72db82000, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0xffff88b72db85800, 0xffff88bf77b85000, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}

The above is unreadable; consider rewriting it in something other than a
raw data dump.

> The reason is that NMI watchdog permanently consumes one FP,
> so cycles can only use one GP, and its hweight is 5,
> but the hweight of other events (cache misses) is 4,
> so the counter used by cycles will be frequently taken away,
> resulting in unnecessary pmu_stop/start.

And the solution..... ? Or should I try and reverse engineer from the
proposed patch? If I do, how do I know it is what you intended?

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-11 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-10  4:39 [RFC PATCH] perf/x86: improve the event scheduling to avoid unnecessary pmu_stop/start Wen Yang
2022-02-11 11:36 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
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2022-02-17  2:45 Wen Yang

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