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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: baskov@ispras.ru
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>, Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, linux-efi <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 0/2] Handle UEFI NX-restricted page tables
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 20:47:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220303204759.GA20294@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9787f1c1948cc640e70a50e4b929f44f@ispras.ru>

On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 04:42:07PM +0300, baskov@ispras.ru wrote:
> On 2022-02-28 21:30, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 05:45:53PM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > 
> > > Given that this is a workaround for a very specific issue arising on
> > > PI based implementations of UEFI, I consider this a quirk, and so I
> > > think this approach is reasonable. I'd still like to gate it on some
> > > kind of identification, though - perhaps something related to DMI like
> > > the x86 core kernel does as well.
> > 
> > When the V1 patches were reviewed, you suggested allocating
> > EFI_LOADER_CODE rather than EFI_LOADER_DATA. The example given for a
> > failure case is when NxMemoryProtectionPolicy is set to 0x7fd4, in which
> > case EFI_LOADER_CODE, EFI_BOOT_SERVICES_CODE and
> > EFI_RUNTIEM_SERVICES_CODE should not have the nx policy applied. So it
> > seems like your initial suggestion (s/LOADER_DATA/LOADER_CODE/) should
> > have worked, even if there was disagreement about whether the spec
> > required it to. Is this firmware applying a stricter policy?
> 
> Yes, this firmware is being modified to enforce stricter policy.

Ok. I think this should really go through the UEFI spec process - I 
agree that from a strict interpretation of the spec, what this firmware 
is doing is legitimate, but I don't like having a situation where we 
have to depend on the DXE spec.

How does Windows handle this? Just update the page tables itself for any 
regions it needs during boot?

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-03 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-24 15:43 [PATCH RFC v2 0/2] Handle UEFI NX-restricted page tables Baskov Evgeniy
2022-02-24 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/2] libstub: declare DXE services table Baskov Evgeniy
2022-02-24 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/2] libstub: ensure allocated memory to be executable Baskov Evgeniy
2022-02-28 16:45 ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/2] Handle UEFI NX-restricted page tables Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-28 18:30   ` Matthew Garrett
2022-03-03 13:42     ` baskov
2022-03-03 20:47       ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2022-03-17 13:26         ` baskov
2022-03-18 16:37         ` Peter Jones
2022-03-24 16:39           ` baskov
2022-03-25  8:06             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-13 17:50               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-03-29 18:47             ` Peter Jones
2022-03-29 18:47               ` [PATCH] x86: Set the NX-compatibility flag in the PE header Peter Jones
2022-04-13 17:48                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-03-03 14:15   ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/2] Handle UEFI NX-restricted page tables baskov

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