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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, cohuck@redhat.com,
	schnelle@linux.ibm.com, farman@linux.ibm.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 15/32] vfio: introduce KVM-owned IOMMU type
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 20:18:01 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220314231801.GN11336@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220314165033.6d2291a5.alex.williamson@redhat.com>

On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 04:50:33PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:

> > +/*
> > + * The KVM_IOMMU type implies that the hypervisor will control the mappings
> > + * rather than userspace
> > + */
> > +#define VFIO_KVM_IOMMU			11
> 
> Then why is this hosted in the type1 code that exposes a wide variety
> of userspace interfaces?  Thanks,

It is really badly named, this is the root level of a 2 stage nested
IO page table, and this approach needed a special flag to distinguish
the setup from the normal iommu_domain.

If we do try to stick this into VFIO it should probably use the
VFIO_TYPE1_NESTING_IOMMU instead - however, we would like to delete
that flag entirely as it was never fully implemented, was never used,
and isn't part of what we are proposing for IOMMU nesting on ARM
anyhow. (So far I've found nobody to explain what the plan here was..)

This is why I said the second level should be an explicit iommu_domain
all on its own that is explicitly coupled to the KVM to read the page
tables, if necessary.

But I'm not sure that reading the userspace io page tables with KVM is
even the best thing to do - the iommu driver already has the pinned
memory, it would be faster and more modular to traverse the io page
tables through the pfns in the root iommu_domain than by having KVM do
the translations. Lets see what Matthew says..

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-14 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-14 19:44 [PATCH v4 00/32] KVM: s390: enable zPCI for interpretive execution Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 01/32] s390/sclp: detect the zPCI load/store interpretation facility Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 02/32] s390/sclp: detect the AISII facility Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 03/32] s390/sclp: detect the AENI facility Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 04/32] s390/sclp: detect the AISI facility Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 05/32] s390/airq: pass more TPI info to airq handlers Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 06/32] s390/airq: allow for airq structure that uses an input vector Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 07/32] s390/pci: externalize the SIC operation controls and routine Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 08/32] s390/pci: stash associated GISA designation Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 09/32] s390/pci: export some routines related to RPCIT processing Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 10/32] s390/pci: stash dtsm and maxstbl Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 11/32] s390/pci: add helper function to find device by handle Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 12/32] s390/pci: get SHM information from list pci Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 13/32] s390/pci: return status from zpci_refresh_trans Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 14/32] iommu: introduce iommu_domain_alloc_type and the KVM type Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 21:36   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-15 10:49   ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-17  5:47     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-17 13:52       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-18  2:23         ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-18 14:13           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-19  7:51             ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-21 14:07               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-22  7:30                 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 15/32] vfio: introduce KVM-owned IOMMU type Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 21:38   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-15 13:49     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 14:38       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-15 16:29         ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 17:25           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-17 18:51             ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 22:50   ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-14 23:18     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-03-15  7:57       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-15 14:17         ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 17:01           ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 13:36       ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 14:55         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-15 16:04           ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 17:18             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-18  7:01           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-18 13:46             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-19  7:47               ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 16/32] vfio-pci/zdev: add function handle to clp base capability Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 17/32] KVM: s390: pci: add basic kvm_zdev structure Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 18/32] iommu/s390: add support for IOMMU_DOMAIN_KVM Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 19/32] KVM: s390: pci: do initial setup for AEN interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 20/32] KVM: s390: pci: enable host forwarding of Adapter Event Notifications Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 21/32] KVM: s390: mechanism to enable guest zPCI Interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 22/32] KVM: s390: pci: routines for (dis)associating zPCI devices with a KVM Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 21:46   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-15 16:39     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 23/32] KVM: s390: pci: provide routines for enabling/disabling interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 24/32] KVM: s390: pci: provide routines for enabling/disabling interrupt forwarding Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 25/32] KVM: s390: pci: provide routines for enabling/disabling IOAT assist Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 26/32] KVM: s390: pci: handle refresh of PCI translations Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 27/32] KVM: s390: intercept the rpcit instruction Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 28/32] KVM: s390: add KVM_S390_ZPCI_OP to manage guest zPCI devices Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 29/32] vfio-pci/zdev: add DTSM to clp group capability Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 21:49   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-15 14:39     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 14:56       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 30/32] KVM: s390: introduce CPU feature for zPCI Interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 31/32] MAINTAINERS: additional files related kvm s390 pci passthrough Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 32/32] MAINTAINERS: update s390 IOMMU entry Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:52 ` [PATCH v4 00/32] KVM: s390: enable zPCI for interpretive execution Matthew Rosato

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