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From:   Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
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Subject: Re: Linux DRTM on UEFI platforms
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 09:23:17AM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 at 09:19, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org> wrote:
> > From a conceptual perspective we've thought of the EFI stub as being
> > logically part of the bootloader rather than the early kernel, and the
> > bootloader is a point where the line is drawn. My guy feeling is that
> > jumping into the secure kernel environment before EBS has been called is
> > likely to end badly.
> 
> If you jump back into the system firmware, sure.
> 
> But the point I was trying to make is that you can replace that with
> your own minimal implementation of EFI that just exposes a memory map
> and some protocols and nothing else, and then the secure launch kernel
> would be entirely in charge of the execution environment.

We can't just replace system firmware with an imitation of the same - 
for instance, configuring the cold boot prevention memory overwrite 
requires us to pass a variable through to the real firmware, and that's 
something that we do in the stub.