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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.com>,
	Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"Pan, Jacob jun" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 02/11] iommu: Add iommu_group_singleton_lockdown()
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 11:10:08 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220405141008.GS2120790@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5ca5d34a-2394-b8bd-837b-cd6bf3301989@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 02:12:42PM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
> On 2022/4/5 1:24, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 04, 2022 at 01:43:49PM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
> > > On 2022/3/30 19:58, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > > > Testing the group size is inherently the wrong test to make.
> > > > > What is your suggestion then?
> > > > Add a flag to the group that positively indicates the group can never
> > > > have more than one member, even after hot plug. eg because it is
> > > > impossible due to ACS, or lack of bridges, and so on.
> > > 
> > > The check method seems to be bus specific. For platform devices, perhaps
> > > this kind of information should be retrieved from firmware interfaces
> > > like APCI or DT.
> > > 
> > >  From this point of view, would it be simpler and more reasonable for the
> > > device driver to do such check? After all, it is the device driver that
> > > decides whether to provide SVA services to the application via uacce.
> > 
> > The check has to do with the interconnect, not the device - I don't
> > see how a device driver would know any better.
> 
> I'm worried about how to support this group flag for devices that are
> not connected to the system through PCI buses. If IOMMU can support
> sva_bind() only when this flag is set, the SVA on many devices cannot
> be supported. Or this flag is always set for non PCI devices by
> default?

IHMO it is not so different from how we determine if ACS like
functionality is supported on non-PCI. It is really just a more narrow
application of the existing ACS idea.

For instance it may be that if the iommu_group came from DT we can
assume it is static and then singleton can know ACS is reliable.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-06  2:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-29  5:37 [PATCH RFC v2 00/11] iommu: SVA and IOPF refactoring Lu Baolu
2022-03-29  5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/11] iommu: Add pasid_bits field in struct dev_iommu Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 21:00   ` Jacob Pan
2022-03-30  4:30     ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-30  7:05   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 11:58     ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-29  5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/11] iommu: Add iommu_group_singleton_lockdown() Lu Baolu
2022-03-29  8:42   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-29 11:42     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-30  6:50       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 11:57         ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 11:58         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-30 14:12           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 14:30             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-02  7:12               ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-02 23:29                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-06 10:02                 ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-06 10:44                   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-06 11:03                     ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-06 23:56                       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 14:18           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 15:04             ` Alex Williamson
2022-04-04  5:43           ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-04 17:24             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-05  6:12               ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-05 14:10                 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-04-06  9:51                   ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-01  6:20       ` Yi Liu
2022-04-01 11:52         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-30  4:59     ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-30  6:55       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-01  5:49     ` Yi Liu
2022-03-29  5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/11] iommu/sva: Add iommu_domain type for SVA Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 21:38   ` Jacob Pan
2022-03-30  4:35     ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 19:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-02  8:43     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-02 23:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-04  6:09         ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-06  1:00         ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-06  1:23           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-06  5:58             ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-06 12:32               ` Robin Murphy
2022-04-06 13:06                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-06 13:37                   ` Robin Murphy
2022-04-06 14:01                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-07  0:11                 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-29  5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/11] iommu: Add attach/detach_dev_pasid domain ops Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 19:08   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-04  6:47     ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-29  5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/11] iommu/vt-d: Remove SVM_FLAG_SUPERVISOR_MODE suport Lu Baolu
2022-03-29  5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/11] iommu/vt-d: Add SVA domain support Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 19:09   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-04  6:52     ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-29  5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/11] arm-smmu-v3/sva: " Lu Baolu
2022-03-29  5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/11] iommu/sva: Use attach/detach_pasid_dev in SVA interfaces Lu Baolu
2022-03-31 20:59   ` Jacob Pan
2022-03-31 22:26     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-04  5:55       ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-29  5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/11] iommu: Remove SVA related callbacks from iommu ops Lu Baolu
2022-03-29  5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/11] iommu: Per-domain I/O page fault handling Lu Baolu
2022-03-29  5:38 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/11] iommu: Rename iommu-sva-lib.{c,h} Lu Baolu

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