From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
Cc: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"live-patching@vger.kernel.org" <live-patching@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
"vincent.guittot@linaro.org" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
"joe.lawrence@redhat.com" <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
Kernel Team <Kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] sched,livepatch: call klp_try_switch_task in __cond_resched
Date: Mon, 9 May 2022 11:38:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220509093830.GH76023@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9FA1822F-76EE-4174-86DD-B20F1F8CE7FC@fb.com>
On Mon, May 09, 2022 at 08:06:22AM +0000, Song Liu wrote:
>
>
> > On May 9, 2022, at 12:04 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, May 07, 2022 at 10:46:28AM -0700, Song Liu wrote:
> >> Busy kernel threads may block the transition of livepatch. Call
> >> klp_try_switch_task from __cond_resched to make the transition easier.
> >
> > What will a PREEMPT=y kernel do? How is it not a problem there, and if
> > it is, this will not help that.
> >
> > That is; I don't think this can be right.
>
> I guess on PREEMPT=y kernel, we can simply preempt the long running
> kernel thread and check the transition?
This is not a guessing game.
> In this case (PREEMPT=n), we see a long running kernel thread could not
> finish the transition. It calls cond_resched() and gets rescheduled
> (moves among different cores). However, it never finishes the transition,
> because live patch doesn’t get a chance to check the stack.
>
> Does this answer the question?
Not really. There is no difference between an explicit preemption point
(cond_resched) or an involuntary preemption point (PREEMPT=y).
So unless you can *exactly* say why it isn't a problem on PREEMPT=y,
none of this makes any sense.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-09 9:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-07 17:46 [RFC] sched,livepatch: call klp_try_switch_task in __cond_resched Song Liu
2022-05-07 18:26 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-07 19:04 ` Song Liu
2022-05-07 19:18 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-08 20:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-09 1:07 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-09 7:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-09 8:06 ` Song Liu
2022-05-09 9:38 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-05-09 14:13 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-09 15:22 ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-09 15:07 ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-09 16:22 ` Song Liu
2022-05-10 7:56 ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-10 13:33 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-10 15:44 ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-10 16:07 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-10 16:52 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-10 18:07 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-10 18:42 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-10 19:45 ` Song Liu
2022-05-10 23:04 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-10 23:57 ` Song Liu
2022-05-11 0:33 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-11 9:24 ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-11 16:33 ` Song Liu
2022-05-12 4:07 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-13 12:33 ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-13 13:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-11 0:35 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-11 0:37 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-11 0:46 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-11 1:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-11 18:09 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-12 3:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-09 15:52 ` [RFC] sched,livepatch: call stop_one_cpu in klp_check_and_switch_task Rik van Riel
2022-05-09 16:28 ` Song Liu
2022-05-09 18:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-09 19:10 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-09 19:17 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-09 19:49 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-09 20:09 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-10 0:32 ` Song Liu
2022-05-10 9:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-10 1:48 ` Rik van Riel
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