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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	<nvdimm@lists.linux.dev>, <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>,
	<peterz@infradead.org>, <bp@alien8.de>, <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	<vishal.l.verma@intel.com>, <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	<a.manzanares@samsung.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next] memregion: Add arch_flush_memregion() interface
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2022 14:13:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220908141319.00000f01@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <631940536d040_2736529437@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch>

On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 18:07:31 -0700
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:

> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > I really dislike the term "flush".  Sometimes it means writeback,
> > sometimes it means invalidate.  Perhaps at other times it means
> > both.
> > 
> > Can we please be very clear in comments and changelogs about exactly
> > what this "flush" does.   With bonus points for being more specific in the 
> > function naming?
> >   
> 
> That's a good point, "flush" has been cargo-culted along in Linux's
> cache management APIs to mean write-back-and-invalidate. In this case I
> think this API is purely about invalidate. It just so happens that x86
> has not historically had a global invalidate instruction readily
> available which leads to the overuse of wbinvd.
> 
> It would be nice to make clear that this API is purely about
> invalidating any data cached for a physical address impacted by address
> space management event (secure erase / new region provision). Write-back
> is an unnecessary side-effect.
> 
> So how about:
> 
> s/arch_flush_memregion/cpu_cache_invalidate_memregion/?

Want to indicate it 'might' write back perhaps?
So could be invalidate or clean and invalidate (using arm ARM terms just to add
to the confusion ;)

Feels like there will be potential race conditions where that matters as we might
force stale data to be written back.

Perhaps a comment is enough for that. Anyone have the "famous last words" feeling?

Jonathan





  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-08 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-29 21:29 [PATCH -next] memregion: Add arch_flush_memregion() interface Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-29 23:02 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-07 14:36 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-09-07 16:46   ` Dan Williams
2022-09-07 16:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-07 16:22   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-09-07 16:52     ` Dan Williams
2022-09-07 17:24       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-09-08  4:35       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-08  6:53         ` Dan Williams
2022-09-08 13:00           ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-08  4:31     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-07 22:30 ` Andrew Morton
2022-09-08  1:07   ` Dan Williams
2022-09-08 13:13     ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2022-09-08 22:51       ` Dan Williams
2022-09-08 23:00         ` Andrew Morton
2022-09-08 23:22           ` Dan Williams
2022-09-09 11:43             ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-13 15:56               ` Davidlohr Bueso

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