From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
rushikesh.s.kadam@intel.com, urezki@gmail.com,
neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com, paulmck@kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
youssefesmat@google.com, surenb@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 01/11] rcu: Wake up nocb gp thread on rcu_barrier_entrain()
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 12:39:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221005103920.GA326169@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c634e41e-3c6c-0896-0873-b9d1bb317cea@joelfernandes.org>
On Tue, Oct 04, 2022 at 06:57:59PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> >> needed after an entrain. Otherwise, the RCU barrier callback can wait in
> >> the queue for several seconds before the lazy callbacks in front of it
> >> are serviced.
> >
> > It's not about lazy callbacks here (but you can mention the fact that
> > waking nocb_gp if necessary after flushing bypass is a beneficial side
> > effect for further lazy implementation).
> >
> > So here is the possible bad scenario:
> >
> > 1) CPU 0 is nocb, it queues a callback
> > 2) CPU 0 goes idle (or userspace with nohz_full) forever
> > 3) The grace period related to that callback elapses
> > 4) The callback is moved to the done list (but is not invoked yet), there are no more pending for CPU 0
> > 5) CPU 1 calls rcu_barrier() and entrains to CPU 0 cblist
>
> CPU 1 can only entrain into CPU 0 if the CPU is offline:
>
> if (!rcu_rdp_cpu_online(rdp)) {
> rcu_barrier_entrain(rdp);
> WARN_ON_ONCE(READ_ONCE(rdp->barrier_seq_snap) != gseq);
> raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&rcu_state.barrier_lock,
> ...
> continue;
> }
Ah good point. So CPU 1 sends an IPI to CPU 0 which entrains itself.
And then looks like the result is the same.
>
> Otherwise an IPI does the entraining. So I do not see how CPU 0 being idle
> causes the cross-CPU entraining.
It doesn't but it shows that the CPU isn't going to enqueue any further
callback before a while. Though even if it did, it may not even solve the
situation, not until an RCU_NOCB_WAKE_FORCE is issued...
>
> > 6) CPU 1 waits forever
>
> But, I agree it can still wait forever, once the IPI handler does the
> entraining, since nothing will do the GP thread wakeup.
>
> >>
> >> Reported-by: Joel Fernandes (Google) <joel@joelfernandes.org>
> >
> > Fixes: 5d6742b37727 ("rcu/nocb: Use rcu_segcblist for no-CBs CPUs")
>
> So, do you mind writing a proper patch with a proper commit message and Fixes
> tag then? It can independent of this series and add my Reported-by tag,
> thanks!
Ok will do.
Thanks!
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Joel
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-05 10:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-04 2:41 [PATCH v7 00/11] rcu: call_rcu() power improvements Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-10-04 2:41 ` [PATCH v7 01/11] rcu: Wake up nocb gp thread on rcu_barrier_entrain() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-10-04 22:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-10-04 22:57 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-05 10:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2022-10-07 2:47 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-07 11:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-10-07 12:46 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-04 2:41 ` [PATCH v7 02/11] rcu: Make call_rcu() lazy to save power Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-10-04 11:41 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-04 13:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-04 14:53 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-04 15:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-04 16:20 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-04 18:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-05 11:28 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-04 16:22 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-04 18:05 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-05 11:21 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-05 11:44 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-06 19:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-11 17:44 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-04 2:41 ` [PATCH v7 03/11] rcu: Refactor code a bit in rcu_nocb_do_flush_bypass() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-10-06 19:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-04 2:41 ` [PATCH v7 04/11] rcu: shrinker for lazy rcu Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-10-04 2:41 ` [PATCH v7 05/11] rcuscale: Add laziness and kfree tests Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-10-06 19:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-04 2:41 ` [PATCH v7 06/11] percpu-refcount: Use call_rcu_flush() for atomic switch Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-10-04 2:41 ` [PATCH v7 07/11] rcu/sync: Use call_rcu_flush() instead of call_rcu Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-10-04 2:41 ` [PATCH v7 08/11] rcu/rcuscale: Use call_rcu_flush() for async reader test Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-10-04 2:41 ` [PATCH v7 09/11] rcu/rcutorture: Use call_rcu_flush() where needed Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-10-04 2:41 ` [PATCH v7 10/11] scsi/scsi_error: Use call_rcu_flush() instead of call_rcu() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-10-07 3:18 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-07 17:19 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-07 17:31 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-07 17:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-07 19:29 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-07 19:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-07 20:24 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-04 2:41 ` [PATCH v7 11/11] workqueue: Make queue_rcu_work() use call_rcu_flush() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-10-06 18:55 ` [PATCH v7 00/11] rcu: call_rcu() power improvements Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-07 14:40 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-07 14:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-07 15:09 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-07 18:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
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