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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 14/16] timer: Implement the hierarchical pull model
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 17:20:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221128162010.GB1699488@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e2b4a90-2d9-f2db-8c85-2e64caed5d0@linutronix.de>

On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 08:47:56AM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2022, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Nov 04, 2022 at 03:57:35PM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen wrote:
> > > +static int tmigr_cpu_offline(unsigned int cpu)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct tmigr_cpu *tmc = this_cpu_ptr(&tmigr_cpu);
> > > +
> > > +	raw_spin_lock_irq(&tmc->lock);
> > > +	tmc->online = 0;
> > > +	__tmigr_cpu_deactivate(tmc, KTIME_MAX);
> > 
> > This means that if the CPU is going idle for some time during
> > the hotplug process (ie: at some point between CPUHP_AP_TMIGR_ONLINE
> > and CPUHP_TEARDOWN_CPU), then a global timer may be delayed for that long.
> > 
> > I guess it shouldn't be too bad but worth mentioning...
> > 
> > Although if it happens to be a problem it could be solved with simply allowing
> > tmigr_cpu_deactivate() when !tmc->online.
> 
> The plan was (and I broke it) to let the CPU handle global timers by itself
> as long as timer migration hierarchy is not completely initialized and as
> long as CPU is marked offline in timer migration hierarchy. Otherwise
> global timers might be delayed during this period. The proper way would be
> that tmigr_cpu_deactivate(nextexp) directly returns nextexp if !tmc->online
> and tmigr hierarchy is not in place yet. I will have a deeper look if there
> was a reason why I changed the return to KTIME_MAX...

Well, do you need tmc->online at all?

I guess tmigr_cpu_offline() could be simply removed because when the CPU goes
finally down in do_idle() it does:

	tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick();
	cpuhp_report_idle_dead();

So the tick is expected to be stopped (better check it is) and thus the tmc
should be deactivated.

I guess you just need to call tmigr_cpu_activate() from timers_prepare_cpu().

Or am I missing something along the way?

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-28 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-04 14:57 [PATCH v4 00/16] timer: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 01/16] tick-sched: Warn when next tick seems to be in the past Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 02/16] timer: Move store of next event into __next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 03/16] timer: Split next timer interrupt logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 04/16] timer: Rework idle logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 05/16] add_timer_on(): Make sure callers have TIMER_PINNED flag Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 16:43   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-07  8:11     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-07 10:11       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 06/16] timer: Keep the pinned timers separate from the others Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 07/16] timer: Retrieve next expiry of pinned/non-pinned timers seperately Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-07 11:58   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 08/16] timer: Rename get_next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-07 12:13   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 09/16] timer: Split out "get next timer interrupt" functionality Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-07 12:42   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-08 15:30     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 10/16] timer: Add get next timer interrupt functionality for remote CPUs Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 11/16] timer: Restructure internal locking Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 12/16] timer: Check if timers base is handled already Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 13/16] tick/sched: Split out jiffies update helper function Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 14/16] timer: Implement the hierarchical pull model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-07 22:07   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-08 16:16     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-09 17:12       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-08 10:47   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-08 17:02     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-09 17:13       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-08 11:48   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-09 16:39   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-10  6:34     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-14 13:09   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-15 11:31   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-24  7:47     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-28 16:20       ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2022-11-29 10:30         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-16 13:40   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 15/16] timer_migration: Add tracepoints Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 16/16] timer: Always queue timers on the local CPU Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-08  4:37 ` [PATCH v4 00/16] timer: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Pavan Kondeti
2022-11-08 15:06   ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-08 16:04     ` Pavan Kondeti
2022-11-08 17:39       ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-08 18:48         ` Pavan Kondeti

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