From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] srcu: Remove pre-flip memory barrier
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 13:40:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221220124033.GA22763@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221220123443.GA21796@lothringen>
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 01:34:43PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:07:17PM -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 2:13 PM Joel Fernandes (Google)
> > <joel@joelfernandes.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello, I believe the pre-flip memory barrier is not required. The only reason I
> > > can say to remove it, other than the possibility that it is unnecessary, is to
> > > not have extra code that does not help. However, since we are issuing a fully
> > > memory-barrier after the flip, I cannot say that it hurts to do it anyway.
> > >
> > > For this reason, please consider these patches as "informational", than a
> > > "please merge". :-) Though, feel free to consider merging if you agree!
> > >
> > > All SRCU scenarios pass with these, with 6 hours of testing.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > - Joel
> > >
> > > Joel Fernandes (Google) (2):
> > > srcu: Remove comment about prior read lock counts
> > > srcu: Remove memory barrier "E" as it is not required
> >
> > And litmus tests confirm that "E" does not really do what the comments
> > say, PTAL:
> > Test 1:
> > C mbe
> > (*
> > * Result: sometimes
> > * Does previous scan see old reader's lock count, if a new reader saw
> > the new srcu_idx?
> > *)
> >
> > {}
> >
> > P0(int *lockcount, int *srcu_idx) // updater
> > {
> > int r0;
> > r0 = READ_ONCE(*lockcount);
> > smp_mb(); // E
> > WRITE_ONCE(*srcu_idx, 1);
> > }
> >
> > P1(int *lockcount, int *srcu_idx) // reader
> > {
> > int r0;
> > WRITE_ONCE(*lockcount, 1); // previous reader
> > smp_mb(); // B+C
> > r0 = READ_ONCE(*srcu_idx); // new reader
> > }
> > exists (0:r0=0 /\ 1:r0=1) (* Bad outcome. *)
> >
> > Test 2:
> > C mbe2
> >
> > (*
> > * Result: sometimes
> > * If updater saw reader's lock count, was that reader using the old idx?
> > *)
> >
> > {}
> >
> > P0(int *lockcount, int *srcu_idx) // updater
> > {
> > int r0;
> > r0 = READ_ONCE(*lockcount);
> > smp_mb(); // E
> > WRITE_ONCE(*srcu_idx, 1);
> > }
> >
> > P1(int *lockcount, int *srcu_idx) // reader
> > {
> > int r0;
> > int r1;
> > r1 = READ_ONCE(*srcu_idx); // previous reader
> > WRITE_ONCE(*lockcount, 1); // previous reader
> > smp_mb(); // B+C
> > r0 = READ_ONCE(*srcu_idx); // new reader
> > }
> > exists (0:r0=1 /\ 1:r1=1) (* Bad outcome. *)
>
> Actually, starring at this some more, there is some form of dependency
> on the idx in order to build the address where the reader must write the
> lockcount to. Litmus doesn't support arrays but assuming that
> &ssp->sda->srcu_lock_count == 0 (note the & in the beginning), it
> could be modelized that way (I'm eluding the unlock part to simplify):
>
> ---
> C w-depend-r
>
> {
> PLOCK=LOCK0;
> }
>
> // updater
> P0(int *LOCK0, int *LOCK1, int **PLOCK)
> {
> int lock1;
>
> lock1 = READ_ONCE(*LOCK1); // READ from inactive idx
> smp_mb();
> WRITE_ONCE(*PLOCK, LOCK1); // Flip idx
> }
>
> // reader
> P1(int **PLOCK)
> {
> int *plock;
>
> plock = READ_ONCE(*PLOCK); // Read active idx
> WRITE_ONCE(*plock, 1); // Write to active idx
> }
>
> exists (0:lock0=1) // never happens
That's lock1=1, lemme do it again:
C w-depend-r
{
PLOCK=LOCK0;
}
// updater
P0(int *LOCK1, int **PLOCK)
{
int lock1;
lock1 = READ_ONCE(*LOCK1); // READ from inactive idx
smp_mb();
WRITE_ONCE(*PLOCK, LOCK1); // Flip idx
}
// reader
P1(int **PLOCK)
{
int *plock;
plock = READ_ONCE(*PLOCK); // Read active idx
WRITE_ONCE(*plock, 1); // Write to active idx
}
exists (0:lock1=1) (* never *)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-20 12:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-18 19:13 [RFC 0/2] srcu: Remove pre-flip memory barrier Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-12-18 19:13 ` [RFC 1/2] srcu: Remove comment about prior read lock counts Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-12-18 21:08 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-18 21:19 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-18 19:13 ` [RFC 2/2] srcu: Remove memory barrier "E" as it is not required Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-12-18 21:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-18 23:26 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-19 0:30 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-18 20:57 ` [RFC 0/2] srcu: Remove pre-flip memory barrier Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-18 21:30 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-18 23:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-18 23:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-19 0:04 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-19 0:24 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-19 1:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-20 0:55 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-20 1:04 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-20 17:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-20 18:05 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-20 18:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-20 18:29 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-20 19:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-20 19:06 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-20 23:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-20 23:46 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-21 0:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-20 22:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-21 3:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-21 11:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-21 17:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-22 12:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-22 13:19 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-22 16:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-22 18:19 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-22 18:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-22 18:56 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-22 19:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-23 4:43 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-23 16:12 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-23 18:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-23 20:10 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-23 20:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-20 20:55 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-21 3:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-21 5:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-21 0:07 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-21 3:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-20 4:07 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-20 12:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-20 12:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2022-12-20 13:44 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-20 14:07 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-20 14:20 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-20 22:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-21 0:15 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-21 0:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-21 0:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-21 3:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-21 4:26 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-21 14:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-21 16:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-21 12:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-21 17:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-12-21 18:18 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-21 2:41 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-21 11:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-21 16:02 ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-21 17:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-21 19:33 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-21 19:57 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-12-21 20:19 ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-22 12:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-12-22 12:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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