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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	"bhelgaas@google.com" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"hdegoede@redhat.com" <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	"kernelorg@undead.fr" <kernelorg@undead.fr>,
	"kjhambrick@gmail.com" <kjhambrick@gmail.com>,
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	"nicholas.johnson-opensource@outlook.com.au" 
	<nicholas.johnson-opensource@outlook.com.au>,
	"benoitg@coeus.ca" <benoitg@coeus.ca>,
	"mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com"
	<mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	"wse@tuxedocomputers.com" <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>,
	"mumblingdrunkard@protonmail.com"
	<mumblingdrunkard@protonmail.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Box, David E" <david.e.box@intel.com>,
	"Sun, Yunying" <yunying.sun@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Bug report: the extended PCI config space is missed with 6.2-rc2
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 15:48:45 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230105214845.GA1172859@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63b7447883c75_51741294e5@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch>

On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 01:43:20PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 01:20:36PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 11:44:28AM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:

> > > > > Would it be enough to add this clarification in "EFI 2.9 Table 7-6
> > > > > Memory Type Usage after ExitBootServices()"?
> > > > > 
> > > > > s/This memory is not used by the OS./This memory is not used by the OS,
> > > > > unless ACPI declares it for another purpose./
> > > > 
> > > > I guess the idea is that MCFG is a form of "ACPI declaring it"?  I
> > > > don't have an explicit citation for it, but I infer at [1] that ACPI
> > > > static tables are second-class citizens and not intended as a way of
> > > > reserving address space because that would lead to problems booting
> > > > old OSes on firmware that provides new tables unknown to the OS.
> > > 
> > > Ah, true, certainly for new stuff, but what about MCFG specifically?
> > > What harm is there an assuming that MMCONFIG intersecting with
> > > EfiMemoryMappedIO shall be treated as reserved for MMCONFIG usage.
> > 
> > Probably none, and I think that's what we'll have to do.  Ugh.
> > Another random special-case rule.
> > 
> > > > [1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/PCI/acpi-info.rst?id=v6.1#n32
> 
> I am still holding out that a BIOS developer can either say "whoops,
> populating MMCONFIG in _CRS was overlooked", or point out "if you take
> the derivative of the PCI spec, multiply it be the inverse of the EFI
> spec and then take the cross-product with the ACPI spec then the memory
> type comes out as implicitly reserved".

Hahaha :)  Yep, but even if they change it, apparently there are lots
of machines in the field that won't get updated, so we're stuck
working around it.

Or, I guess the best-case scenario would be that it's not actually a
firmware bug, and there's some clean fix we can make to Linux.  But
I'm not holding my breath.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-05 21:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-04 14:39 Bug report: the extended PCI config space is missed with 6.2-rc2 Liang, Kan
2023-01-04 14:50 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-04 15:45   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-05 17:42     ` Tony Luck
2023-01-05 17:51       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-05 18:04         ` Luck, Tony
2023-01-05 18:29           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-05 19:23             ` Liang, Kan
2023-01-05 19:44               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-05 19:44             ` Dan Williams
2023-01-05 19:58               ` Luck, Tony
2023-01-05 20:37                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-05 21:49                   ` Luck, Tony
2023-01-05 22:20                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-05 20:23               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-05 21:20                 ` Dan Williams
2023-01-05 21:35                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-05 21:43                     ` Dan Williams
2023-01-05 21:48                       ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2023-01-05 22:32 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-05 23:38   ` Dan Williams
2023-01-06  0:22     ` Luck, Tony
2023-01-06  0:47       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-06 17:33         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-06 18:03           ` Luck, Tony
2023-01-06 20:52             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-06 21:37               ` Luck, Tony
2023-01-06 22:04                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-06 22:30                   ` Luck, Tony
2023-01-10  5:43                   ` Sun, Yunying
2023-01-10 18:12                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-01-10 19:06                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-06  0:32     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-01-06  0:50   ` Liang, Kan
2023-01-09 12:27   ` Giovanni Cabiddu
2023-01-10  6:03   ` Sun, Yunying
2023-01-06  9:44 ` Linux kernel regression tracking (#adding)

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