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From: Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
Cc: "Tomi Valkeinen" <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Wolfram Sang" <wsa@kernel.org>,
	"Matti Vaittinen" <Matti.Vaittinen@fi.rohmeurope.com>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Rosin" <peda@axentia.se>,
	"Liam Girdwood" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Sakari Ailus" <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Michael Tretter" <m.tretter@pengutronix.de>,
	"Shawn Tu" <shawnx.tu@intel.com>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	"Mike Pagano" <mpagano@gentoo.org>,
	"Krzysztof Hałasa" <khalasa@piap.pl>,
	"Marek Vasut" <marex@denx.de>,
	"Luca Ceresoli" <luca@lucaceresoli.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/7] i2c: add I2C Address Translator (ATR) support
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 09:21:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230119092115.02cbbab3@booty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y8gu4mlXUlyiFKZD@smile.fi.intel.com>

Hi Andy,

On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 19:39:46 +0200
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 06:17:53PM +0100, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 16:23:53 +0200
> > Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com> wrote:  
> 
> ...
> 
> > > > +A typical example follows.
> > > > +
> > > > +Topology::
> > > > +
> > > > +                      Slave X @ 0x10
> > > > +              .-----.   |
> > > > +  .-----.     |     |---+---- B
> > > > +  | CPU |--A--| ATR |
> > > > +  `-----'     |     |---+---- C
> > > > +              `-----'   |
> > > > +                      Slave Y @ 0x10
> > > > +
> > > > +Alias table:
> > > > +
> > > > +.. table::
> > > > +
> > > > +   ======   =====
> > > > +   Client   Alias
> > > > +   ======   =====
> > > > +   X        0x20
> > > > +   Y        0x30
> > > > +   ======   =====
> > > > +
> > > > +Transaction:
> > > > +
> > > > + - Slave X driver sends a transaction (on adapter B), slave address 0x10
> > > > + - ATR driver rewrites messages with address 0x20, forwards to adapter A
> > > > + - Physical I2C transaction on bus A, slave address 0x20
> > > > + - ATR chip propagates transaction on bus B with address translated to 0x10
> > > > + - Slave X chip replies on bus B
> > > > + - ATR chip forwards reply on bus A
> > > > + - ATR driver rewrites messages with address 0x10
> > > > + - Slave X driver gets back the msgs[], with reply and address 0x10    
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure I got the real / virtual status of the adapters. Are the B and C
> > > virtual ones, while A is the real?  
> > 
> > Let me reply, as I wrote these docs back at the times and thus I feel
> > guilty in case that's unclear. :)
> > 
> > I don't like the word "virtual" in this situation. A, B and C are all
> > physical busses, made of copper and run by electrons on PCBs. B and C
> > are the "remote" or "downstream" busses (w.r.t. the CPU), where the i2c
> > devices are and where transactions happen using the address that the
> > chip responds to. A is the "local" or "upstream" bus that is driven
> > directly by the CPU (*) and where address aliases are used. Using
> > aliases there is necessary because using address 0x10 would be
> > ambiguous as there are two 0x10 chips out there.
> > 
> > (*) There could be more layers of course, but still A is "closer to the
> > CPU than B and C", for the sake of completeness.  
> 
> Can the diagram and/or text be updated to elaborate this?

Let's see whether the text below is better. I haven't changed the
image, I don't think we can do much more in ASCII, but maybe we can
replace it with an SVG [0]?

[0]
https://github.com/lucaceresoli/docs/blob/master/video-serdes-linux/images/i2c-ti.svg

A typical example follows.

Topology::

                      Slave X @ 0x10
              .-----.   |
  .-----.     |     |---+---- B
  | CPU |--A--| ATR |
  `-----'     |     |---+---- C
              `-----'   |
                      Slave Y @ 0x10

Alias table:

A, B and C are three physical I2C busses, electrically independent from
each other. The ATR receives the transactions initiated on bus A and
propagates them on bus B or bus C or none depending on the device address
in the transaction and based on the alias table.

Alias table:

.. table::

   ===============   =====
   Client            Alias
   ===============   =====
   X (bus B, 0x10)   0x20
   Y (bus C, 0x10)   0x30
   ===============   =====

Transaction:

 - Slave X driver sends a transaction (on adapter B), slave address 0x10
 - ATR driver finds slave X is on bus B and has alias 0x20, rewrites
   messages with address 0x20, forwards to adapter A
 - Physical I2C transaction on bus A, slave address 0x20
 - ATR chip detects transaction on address 0x20, finds it in table,
   propagates transaction on bus B with address translated to 0x10,
   keeps clock streched on bus A waiting for reply
 - Slave X chip (on bus B) detects transaction at its own physical
   address 0x10 and replies normally
 - ATR chip stops clock stretching and forwards reply on bus A,
   with address translated back to 0x20
 - ATR driver receives the reply, rewrites messages with address 0x10
   as they were initially
 - Slave X driver gets back the msgs[], with reply and address 0x10

Let me know whether this sounds better. And perhaps Tomi can further
improve it.


> > > > +void i2c_atr_set_driver_data(struct i2c_atr *atr, void *data)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	atr->priv = data;
> > > > +}
> > > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_NS_GPL(i2c_atr_set_driver_data, I2C_ATR);
> > > > +
> > > > +void *i2c_atr_get_driver_data(struct i2c_atr *atr)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	return atr->priv;
> > > > +}
> > > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_NS_GPL(i2c_atr_get_driver_data, I2C_ATR);    
> > > 
> > > Just to be sure: Is it really _driver_ data and not _device instance_ data?  
> > 
> > It is device instance data indeed. I don't remember why this got
> > changed, but in v3 it was i2c_atr_set_clientdata().  
> 
> It's me who was and is against calling it clientdata due to possible
> confusion with i2c_set/get_clientdata() that is about *driver data*.
> I missed that time the fact that this is about device instance data.
> I dunno which name would be better in this case, i2c_atr_set/get_client_priv() ?

Not sure I'm following you here. The i2c_atr_set_clientdata() name was
given for similarity with i2c_set_clientdata(). The latter wraps 
dev_set_drvdata(), which sets `struct device`->driver_data. There is
one driver_data per each `struct device` instance, not per each driver.
The same goes for i2c_atr_set_driver_data(): there is one priv pointer
per each `struct i2c_atr` instance.

-- 
Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-19  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-18 12:40 [PATCH v7 0/7] i2c-atr and FPDLink Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] i2c: add I2C Address Translator (ATR) support Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 14:23   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-18 17:17     ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-18 17:39       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-19  8:21         ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
2023-01-19 10:09           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-19 11:35             ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-19 12:22               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-19 13:00                 ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-20  9:55                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-20 13:58                     ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-19 12:39           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-19 13:08             ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-19 10:01     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-20 15:58       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-20 16:00         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] dt-bindings: media: add TI DS90UB913 FPD-Link III Serializer Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] dt-bindings: media: add TI DS90UB953 " Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] dt-bindings: media: add TI DS90UB960 FPD-Link III Deserializer Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-19 23:24   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] media: i2c: add DS90UB960 driver Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 15:48   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-19 16:27     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-19 23:19       ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-20 16:47       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-25 11:15         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-25 12:10           ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-25 13:33             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-25 14:49               ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-25 15:14                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-25 15:27                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-26  8:41                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-26 10:21                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-26 10:51                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-27  8:24                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-27  9:15                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-02-08 15:10                               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-02-09 10:54                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] media: i2c: add DS90UB913 driver Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-20  0:03   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-20  7:04     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-20  9:06       ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-18 12:40 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] media: i2c: add DS90UB953 driver Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-20  0:34   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-20  8:13     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-20  9:23       ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-18 16:01 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] i2c-atr and FPDLink Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-18 17:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-18 17:43     ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-19  8:43       ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-19 12:40         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-19 13:19           ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-20 16:00         ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-01-20 16:17           ` Luca Ceresoli
2023-01-20 16:20             ` Tomi Valkeinen

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