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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
To: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
Cc: walter.chang@mediatek.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	"Maciej W . Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>,
	wsd_upstream@mediatek.com, stanley.chu@mediatek.com,
	Chun-hung.Wu@mediatek.com, Freddy.Hsin@mediatek.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Support timer drivers as loadable modules
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:51:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230210085157.GA175687@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANDhNCp6esdor4kDDTDowkKRfRN9QW8Au7uJMhsxyw0eAG4i8A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 11:50:49AM -0800, John Stultz wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 7:36 AM Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 08/02/2023 10:48, walter.chang@mediatek.com wrote:
> > > From: Walter Chang <walter.chang@mediatek.com>
> > >
> > > This patch exports functions in kernel so that timer drivers,
> > > such as timer-mediatek.c can become loadable modules in GKI.
> >
> > What for ?
> 
> In general, it's the same reason why modules exist: We want to be able
> to support a wide array of devices with a single kernel, but we don't
> want all devices to pay the memory cost of code that will never be
> used there. So being able to support loading device-specific bits like
> clocksources (along with other device specific logic) helps.

Agree, that is why modules are for.

> Obviously it still has to make sense, and others have raised concerns
> of stability issues if the hardware support is needed before we can
> get to module loading, but I think if this allows drivers (such as
> timer-mediatek) to be loadable safely, I see it as beneficial.

From a technical point of view, it is arguable.

But my main concern is the real reason of changing this to the module
format. I see that as a way to overcome the effort to upstream the
drivers. And the GKI is an alibi to justify the module conversion.

Given the timers is a base brick of the core subsystems, without
proper support of the timer (eg. bug fixes), the platform support will
be wobbly.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-10  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-08  9:48 [PATCH 0/3] Support timer drivers as loadable modules walter.chang
2023-02-08  9:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] time/sched_clock: Export sched_clock_register() walter.chang
2023-02-08 14:24   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-08 19:41     ` Matthias Brugger
2023-02-08 19:45       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-08 22:22         ` Matthias Brugger
2023-02-09 13:15           ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2023-02-09 15:34         ` Daniel Lezcano
2023-02-09 16:08         ` Sudeep Holla
2023-02-10 10:08       ` Walter Chang (張維哲)
2023-02-08  9:48 ` [PATCH 2/3] clocksource/drivers/mmio: Export clocksource_mmio_init() walter.chang
2023-02-08  9:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] clocksource/drivers/timer-of: Remove __init markings walter.chang
2023-02-09 15:36 ` [PATCH 0/3] Support timer drivers as loadable modules Daniel Lezcano
2023-02-09 19:50   ` John Stultz
2023-02-10  8:51     ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2023-02-10 19:58       ` John Stultz

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