From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: Liang Yang <liang.yang@amlogic.com>
Cc: Arseniy Krasnov <avkrasnov@sberdevices.ru>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>,
Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>,
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Jianxin Pan <jianxin.pan@amlogic.com>,
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linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: clear OOB buffer before read
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 16:32:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230412163214.0c764bb3@xps-13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c996832-258f-001c-56bd-87bbdf23eeaa@amlogic.com>
Hello,
liang.yang@amlogic.com wrote on Wed, 12 Apr 2023 22:04:28 +0800:
> Hi Miquel and Arseniy,
>
> On 2023/4/12 20:57, Miquel Raynal wrote:
> > [ EXTERNAL EMAIL ]
> >
> > Hi Arseniy,
> >
> > avkrasnov@sberdevices.ru wrote on Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:22:26 +0300:
> >
> >> On 12.04.2023 15:18, Miquel Raynal wrote:
> >>> Hi Arseniy,
> >>>
> >>> avkrasnov@sberdevices.ru wrote on Wed, 12 Apr 2023 13:14:52 +0300:
> >>> >>>> On 12.04.2023 12:36, Miquel Raynal wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Arseniy,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> avkrasnov@sberdevices.ru wrote on Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:20:55 +0300:
> >>>>> >>>>>> On 12.04.2023 10:44, Miquel Raynal wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Arseniy,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> AVKrasnov@sberdevices.ru wrote on Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:16:58 +0300:
> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This NAND reads only few user's bytes in ECC mode (not full OOB), so
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "This NAND reads" does not look right, do you mean "Subpage reads do
> >>>>>>> not retrieve all the OOB bytes,"?
> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> fill OOB buffer with zeroes to not return garbage from previous reads
> >>>>>>>> to user.
> >>>>>>>> Otherwise 'nanddump' utility prints something like this for just erased
> >>>>>>>> page:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>> 0x000007f0: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
> >>>>>>>> OOB Data: ff ff ff ff 00 00 ff ff 80 cf 22 99 cb ad d3 be
> >>>>>>>> OOB Data: 63 27 ae 06 16 0a 2f eb bb dd 46 74 41 8e 88 6e
> >>>>>>>> OOB Data: 38 a1 2d e6 77 d4 05 06 f2 a5 7e 25 eb 34 7c ff
> >>>>>>>> OOB Data: 38 ea de 14 10 de 9b 40 33 16 6a cc 9d aa 2f 5e
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Arseniy Krasnov <AVKrasnov@sberdevices.ru>
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>> drivers/mtd/nand/raw/meson_nand.c | 5 +++++
> >>>>>>>> 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/mtd/nand/raw/meson_nand.c b/drivers/mtd/nand/raw/meson_nand.c
> >>>>>>>> index f84a10238e4d..f2f2472cb511 100644
> >>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/mtd/nand/raw/meson_nand.c
> >>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/mtd/nand/raw/meson_nand.c
> >>>>>>>> @@ -858,9 +858,12 @@ static int meson_nfc_read_page_sub(struct nand_chip *nand,
> >>>>>>>> static int meson_nfc_read_page_raw(struct nand_chip *nand, u8 *buf,
> >>>>>>>> int oob_required, int page)
> >>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>> + struct mtd_info *mtd = nand_to_mtd(nand);
> >>>>>>>> u8 *oob_buf = nand->oob_poi;
> >>>>>>>> int ret;
> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> + memset(oob_buf, 0, mtd->oobsize);
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm surprised raw reads do not read the entire OOB?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes! Seems in case of raw access (what i see in this driver) number of OOB bytes read
> >>>>>> still depends on ECC parameters: for each portion of data covered with ECC code we can
> >>>>>> read it's ECC code and "user bytes" from OOB - it is what i see by dumping DMA buffer by
> >>>>>> printk(). For example I'm working with 2K NAND pages, each page has 2 x 1K ECC blocks.
> >>>>>> For each ECC block I have 16 OOB bytes which I can access by read/write. Each 16 bytes
> >>>>>> contains 2 bytes of user's data and 14 bytes ECC codes. So when I read page in raw mode
> >>>>>> controller returns 32 bytes (2 x (2 + 14)) of OOB. While OOB is reported as 64 bytes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In all modes, when you read OOB, you should get the full OOB. The fact
> >>>>> that ECC correction is enabled or disabled does not matter. If the NAND
> >>>>> features OOB sections of 64 bytes, you should get the 64 bytes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What happens sometimes, is that some of the bytes are not protected
> >>>>> against bitflips, but the policy is to return the full buffer.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, so to clarify case for this NAND controller:
> >>>> 1) In both ECC and raw modes i need to return the same raw OOB data (e.g. user bytes
> >>>> + ECC codes)?
> >>>
> >>> Well, you need to cover the same amount of data, yes. But in the ECC
> >>> case the data won't be raw (at least not all of it).
> >>
> >> So "same amount of data", in ECC mode current implementation returns only user OOB bytes (e.g.
> >> OOB data excluding ECC codes), in raw it returns user bytes + ECC codes. IIUC correct
> >> behaviour is to always return user bytes + ECC codes as OOB data even in ECC mode ?
> >
> > If the page are 2k+64B you should read 2k+64B when OOB are requested.
> >
> > If the controller only returns 2k+32B, then perform a random read to
> > just move the read pointer to mtd->size + mtd->oobsize - 32 and
> > retrieve the missing 32 bytes?
>
> 1) raw read can read out the whole page data 2k+64B, decided by the len in the controller raw read command:
> cmd = (len & GENMASK(5, 0)) | scrambler | DMA_DIR(dir);
> after that, the missing oob bytes(not used) can be copied from meson_chip->data_buf. so the implementation of meson_nfc_read_page_raw() is like this if need.
> {
> ......
> meson_nfc_read_page_sub(nand, page, 1);
> meson_nfc_get_data_oob(nand, buf, oob_buf);
> oob_len = (nand->ecc.bytes + 2) * nand->ecc.steps;
> memcpy(oob_buf + oob_len, meson_chip->data_buf + oob_len, mtd->oobsize - oob_len);
>
> }
> 2) In ECC mode, the controller can't bring back the missing OOB bytes. it can read out the user bytes and ecc bytes per meson_ooblayout_ops define.
And then (if oob_required) you can bring the missing bytes with
something along:
nand_change_read_column_op(chip, mtd->writesize + oob_len,
oob_buf + oob_len,
mtd->oobsize - oob_len,
false);
Should not be a huge performance hit.
>
> >
> > This applies to the two modes, the only difference is:
> > - with correction (commonly named "ECC mode"): the user bytes and ECC
> > bytes should be fixed if there are any bitflips
> > - without correction (commonly referred as "raw mode"): no correction
> > applies, if there are bitflips, give them
> >
> > Please mind the raw mode can be slow, it's meant for debugging and
> > testing, mainly. Page reads however should be fast, so if just moving
> > the column pointer works, then do it, otherwise we'll consider
> > returning FFs.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Miquèl
> >
>
Thanks,
Miquèl
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-12 14:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-12 6:16 [PATCH v1 0/5] refactoring and fix for Meson NAND Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 6:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: fix NAND access for read/write Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 9:37 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 10:24 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 12:03 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 13:30 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-13 5:10 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-13 5:57 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-17 6:47 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-17 13:54 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-17 14:10 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-19 19:43 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-20 14:22 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-21 5:57 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-26 7:53 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-26 12:17 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 6:16 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: replace GENMASK() macro with define Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 7:37 ` Neil Armstrong
2023-04-12 10:06 ` David Laight
2023-04-12 10:11 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 6:16 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: check buffer length Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 7:39 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 6:16 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: clear OOB buffer before read Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 7:44 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 7:47 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 9:20 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 9:36 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 10:14 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 10:51 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 11:36 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 11:43 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-04-12 11:47 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 12:28 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 12:18 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 12:22 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 12:57 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 14:04 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-12 14:32 ` Miquel Raynal [this message]
2023-04-13 5:32 ` Liang Yang
2023-04-13 6:11 ` Liang Yang
[not found] ` <7520e512-8a19-ff04-364c-b5be0a579ef0@sberdevices.ru>
2023-04-13 8:22 ` Miquel Raynal
[not found] ` <b3279de4-e89d-db03-a515-a6aa52ab90d3@sberdevices.ru>
2023-04-13 10:22 ` Miquel Raynal
[not found] ` <569a948e-654a-b21f-8a4f-55dc4b295387@sberdevices.ru>
[not found] ` <60fa656e-bda1-1de6-a79e-3e3041cd69a8@sberdevices.ru>
2023-04-18 12:24 ` Liang Yang
[not found] ` <e7c49f2d-b3c1-8d9b-76fe-c8759b37c7c7@sberdevices.ru>
2023-04-18 13:25 ` Miquel Raynal
[not found] ` <15a6e415-1489-a81f-fc8f-2372678ad2cb@sberdevices.ru>
2023-04-19 3:05 ` Liang Yang
[not found] ` <5e4b395e-bf9d-0123-a0f2-2b378d950b29@sberdevices.ru>
[not found] ` <fda1ae91-4bf8-6945-bd0d-b6dabc9cb4bd@sberdevices.ru>
2023-04-26 13:51 ` Liang Yang
[not found] ` <cf27b6b4-a75b-c5a6-32ea-ac20a2984192@sberdevices.ru>
2023-05-02 9:59 ` Miquel Raynal
[not found] ` <2274b432-d1a9-b3cf-4f7b-08c4a4c580b5@sberdevices.ru>
2023-05-02 11:27 ` Miquel Raynal
[not found] ` <2b2f5cb4-84f7-65f6-13b2-42f965503023@sberdevices.ru>
2023-05-02 12:17 ` Miquel Raynal
[not found] ` <91cb8e19-e782-b847-8d2b-22580c371c34@sberdevices.ru>
2023-05-02 13:05 ` Miquel Raynal
[not found] ` <8996d53c-54ff-6a37-e08b-95cae0629703@sberdevices.ru>
2023-05-03 8:03 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-05-03 19:48 ` Richard Weinberger
[not found] ` <c160eb18-fa50-88a9-a4cf-4afb1b46b177@sberdevices.ru>
[not found] ` <805dea68-8a40-a52a-ad7c-b2e9cd3d05a8@sberdevices.ru>
2023-05-04 12:17 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-13 8:22 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-12 19:15 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-04-12 20:56 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-13 9:27 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-04-13 10:29 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-04-13 14:03 ` Dmitry Rokosov
2023-04-12 6:16 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] mtd: rawnand: meson: remove unneeded bitwise OR with zeroes Arseniy Krasnov
2023-04-12 7:45 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] refactoring and fix for Meson NAND Miquel Raynal
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