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From: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] Sched/fair: Block nohz tick_stop when cfs bandwidth in use
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 12:29:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230630162910.GD43299@lorien.usersys.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230630160534.GA2534344@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 06:05:34PM +0200 Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 11:28:24AM -0400, Phil Auld wrote:
> 
> > No. Or at least not without plumbing the enqueued/dequeued task all the way
> > through.  I can do it that way if you prefer but that seemed a lot more
> > intrusive. When we are in sched_can_stop_tick() we don't have access to the
> > cfs task which will end up running. Curr is idle in that case.  We'd have to
> > essential run pick_next_task_fair() to find the task to check which seemed
> > wrong. Maybe there is a better way?
> 
> Ah, you worry about where we have two runnable tasks, one is bandwidth
> constrained the other is not. One task goes away, how can we tell what
> the remaining task is?

It didn't even have to be an unconstrained task before I added the
check in sched_can_stop_tick(). But yes that check catches the case
where the one (still) running task is bw constrained.

> 
> This is never a concern for add_nr_running(), the only case there is
> 0->1 and then only the hierarchy you just walked for enqueue is
> relevant.
>

Right but we don't (currently) have the task here (hence the pick_next code).

> But if you remove the unconstrained task, sub_nr_running() can't tell
> what the remaining task is.
> 
> Unless, of course, you have enqueue() set a bit somewhere in
> task_struct::sched_bw_constrained:1.
> 
> Then pick and your should_stop thing can look at that, no?
> 

Yes.

I think you are agreeing that I need the pick next code but need to remove
the hierarchy walks, right?

If I set the bit in task_struct it would do that. I'll go poke at that. 


Thanks,
Phil

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-30 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-30 13:57 [PATCH v4] Sched/fair: Block nohz tick_stop when cfs bandwidth in use Phil Auld
2023-06-30 15:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-30 15:28   ` Phil Auld
2023-06-30 16:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-30 16:29       ` Phil Auld [this message]
2023-07-03 12:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-03 14:10           ` Phil Auld
2023-07-03 14:19             ` Phil Auld
2023-07-03 14:32             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-03 15:24               ` Phil Auld

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