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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Cc: Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	samitolvanen@google.com, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/retpoline,kprobes: Avoid treating rethunk as an indirect jump
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2023 09:17:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230706071705.GD2833176@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230706094723.6934105e03f652923796bf7e@kernel.org>

On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 09:47:23AM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:

> > > If I understand correctly, all indirect jump will be replaced with JMP_NOSPEC.
> > > If you read the insn_jump_into_range, I onlu jecks the jump code, not call.
> > > So the functions only have indirect call still allow optprobe.
> > 
> > With the introduction of kCFI JMP_NOSPEC is no longer an equivalent to a
> > C indirect jump.
> 
> If I understand correctly, kCFI is enabled by CFI_CLANG, and clang is not
> using jump-tables by default, so we can focus on gcc. In that case
> current check still work, correct?

IIRC clang can use jump tables, but like GCC needs RETPOLINE=n and
IBT=n, so effectively nobody has them.

The reason I did mention kCFI though is that kCFI has a larger 'indirect
jump' sequence, and I'm not sure we've thought about what can go
sideways if that's optprobed.

I suspect the UD2 that's in there will go 'funny' if it's relocated into
an optprobe, as in, it'll not be recognised as a CFI fail.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-06  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-05  8:15 [PATCH 0/2] x86/retpoline,kprobes: Fix the [__indirect_thunk_start, ..end] range Petr Pavlu
2023-07-05  8:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/retpoline,kprobes: Fix position of thunk sections with CONFIG_LTO_CLANG Petr Pavlu
2023-07-05  8:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-05  8:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/retpoline,kprobes: Avoid treating rethunk as an indirect jump Petr Pavlu
2023-07-05  8:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-05 14:20     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-07-05 14:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-06  0:47         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-07-06  7:17           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-07-06  9:00             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-07-06 11:34               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-07 14:39                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-07-08 14:18                 ` Petr Pavlu
2023-07-09 15:25                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-07-05  9:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-05 14:40   ` Masami Hiramatsu

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