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From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
To: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Naresh Kamboju" <naresh.kamboju@linaro.org>,
	"Anders Roxell" <anders.roxell@linaro.org>,
	"Daniel Díaz" <daniel.diaz@linaro.org>,
	"Benjamin Copeland" <ben.copeland@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: qemu-x86_64 booting with 8.0.0 stil see int3: when running LTP tracing testing.
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2023 11:28:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230706102823.GO7636@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c4b9f02f-3f6a-74b4-4e0d-3da314f90aa8@linaro.org>

On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 07:30:50AM +0100, Richard Henderson wrote:
> On 7/5/23 22:50, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >tb_invalidate_phys_range_fast() *is* called, and we end up calling
> >   tb_invalidate_phys_page_range__locked ->
> >     tb_phys_invalidate__locked ->
> >       do_tb_phys_invalidate
> >
> >Nevertheless the old TB (containing the call to the int3 helper) is
> >still called after the code has been replaced with a NOP.
> >
> >Of course there are 4 MTTCG threads so maybe another thread is in the
> >middle of executing the same TB when it gets invalidated.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> >tb_invalidate_phys_page_range__locked goes to some effort to check if
> >the current TB is being invalidated and restart the TB, but as far as
> >I can see the test can only work for the current core, and won't
> >restart the TB on other cores.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> The assumption with any of these sorts of races is that it is "as
> if" the other thread has already passed the location of the write
> within that block.  But by the time this thread has finished
> do_tb_phys_invalidate, any other thread cannot execute the same
> block *again*.
> 
> There's a race here, and now that I think about it, there's been mail about it in the past:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/cebad06c-48f2-6dbd-6d7f-3a3cf5aebbe3@linaro.org/
> 
> We take care of the same race for user-only in translator_access, by
> ensuring that each translated page is read-only *before* performing
> the read for translation.  But for system mode we grab the page
> locks *after* the reads.  Which means there's a race.
> 
> The email above describes the race pretty clearly, with a new TB
> being generated before the write is even complete.
> 
> It'll be non-trivial fixing this, because not only do we need to
> grab the lock earlier, there are ordering issues for a TB that spans
> two pages, in that one must grab the two locks in the correct order
> lest we deadlock.

Yes I can see how this is hard to fix.  Even if we just lock the page
containing the first instruction (which we know) before doing
translation, we still have a problem when entering tb_link_page()
where we would need to only lock the second page, which might cause
ordering issues.

How about a new per-page lock, which would be grabbed by
do_tb_phys_invalidate() and tb_gen_code(), just on the first
instruction?  It would mean, I think, that no page can be having TBs
invalidated and generated at the same time.

Or something like scanning the bytes as they are being translated,
generate a secure-ish checksum, then recheck it after translation and
discard the TB if the code changed.

Rich.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-06 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CA+G9fYsETJQm0Ue7hGsb+nbsiMikwycOV3V0DPr6WC2r61KRBQ@mail.gmail.com>
2023-06-21 15:31 ` qemu-x86_64 booting with 8.0.0 stil see int3: when running LTP tracing testing Arnd Bergmann
2023-06-21 16:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-04  7:46     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2023-07-04 13:21       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2023-07-05 16:28       ` Richard W.M. Jones
     [not found]         ` <CAFXwXrmbpuFNf5=nQxiTteo8fpCdAbK4pEAN176Cq0yvwZcfFw@mail.gmail.com>
2023-07-05 16:35           ` Richard W.M. Jones
     [not found]             ` <CAFXwXrk1FEZPUO-zqNVJZ6YCHKUkgNehwmyDYuOr5fx8ff0OCA@mail.gmail.com>
2023-07-05 16:40               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2023-07-06  6:13                 ` Richard Henderson
2023-07-05 16:37           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2023-07-05 21:50         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2023-07-06  6:30           ` Richard Henderson
2023-07-06 10:28             ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]
2023-08-08  5:27               ` John Stultz
2023-08-08  7:28                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2025-10-25 19:48                   ` Gregory Price

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