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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Cc: Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	samitolvanen@google.com, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] x86/kprobes: Prohibit probing on compiler generated CFI checking code
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 09:15:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230711071540.GC3062772@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230711085837.fac80c964ea7667cb75bd6e5@kernel.org>

On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 08:58:37AM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:

> > Hmm, so I was thinking something like the below, which also catches
> > things when we rewrite kCFI to FineIBT, except I don't think we care if
> > the FineIBT callsite gets re-written. FineIBT only relies on the __cfi_
> > symbol not getting poked at (which the previous patches should ensure).
> 
> Oh, is FineIBT different from kCFI? I thought those are same. But anyway
> for kCFI=y && FineIBT=n case, I think this code still needed.

Ah, I forgot to answer your other question; FineIBT is dynamically
patched since it relies on optional hardware features, only if the
hardware has IBT support can FineIBT work.

So yeah, your check is definitely needed. And I think it'll 'gracefully'
fail when FineIBT is patched in because the instructions aren't exactly
the same.

And since FineIBT has most of the magic in the __cfi_ prefix, which
isn't patched per the previous patch, I think we're good on the call-site.

> > So I tihnk I'm ok with the above, just adding the below for reference
> > (completely untested and everything).
> 
> I wonder the distance can be used outside of x86. CFI implementation
> depends on the arch?

Currently only arm64 and x86_64 have CFI, and while the particulars are a
little different, they do have a lot in common, including the reporting.
IIRC the arm64 variant is a little simpler because of fixed instruction
size. There is no worry someone will jump in the middle of an
instruction stream.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-11  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-10 12:14 [RFC PATCH 0/2] x86: kprobes: Fix CFI_CLANG related issues Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2023-07-10 12:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] kprobes: Prohibit probing on CFI preamble symbol Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2023-07-10 15:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-10 23:50     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-07-10 12:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] x86/kprobes: Prohibit probing on compiler generated CFI checking code Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2023-07-10 16:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-10 16:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-10 23:58     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-07-11  7:04       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-11  7:15       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-07-10 13:46 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] x86: kprobes: Fix CFI_CLANG related issues Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-10 15:57 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-07-11  1:33   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-07-11 18:37     ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-07-11 19:54       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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