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From: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
To: Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] Sched/fair: Block nohz tick_stop when cfs bandwidth in use
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 10:12:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230711141210.GC150804@lorien.usersys.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230711131024.GA150804@lorien.usersys.redhat.com>

On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 09:10:24AM -0400 Phil Auld wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 04:54:58PM -0700 Benjamin Segall wrote:
> > Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com> writes:
> > 
> > > CFS bandwidth limits and NOHZ full don't play well together.  Tasks
> > > can easily run well past their quotas before a remote tick does
> > > accounting.  This leads to long, multi-period stalls before such
> > > tasks can run again. Currently, when presented with these conflicting
> > > requirements the scheduler is favoring nohz_full and letting the tick
> > > be stopped. However, nohz tick stopping is already best-effort, there
> > > are a number of conditions that can prevent it, whereas cfs runtime
> > > bandwidth is expected to be enforced.
> > >
> > > Make the scheduler favor bandwidth over stopping the tick by setting
> > > TICK_DEP_BIT_SCHED when the only running task is a cfs task with
> > > runtime limit enabled. We use cfs_b->hierarchical_quota to
> > > determine if the task requires the tick.
> > >
> > > Add check in pick_next_task_fair() as well since that is where
> > > we have a handle on the task that is actually going to be running.
> > >
> > > Add check in sched_can_stop_tick() to cover some edge cases such 
> > > as nr_running going from 2->1 and the 1 remains the running task.
> > >
> > > Add sched_feat HZ_BW (off by default) to control the tick_stop
> > > behavior.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
> > > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
> > > Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > > Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> > > Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
> > > Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
> > > Cc: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
> > > Cc: Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>
> > > Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
> > > ---
> > >  kernel/sched/core.c     | 12 ++++++++++
> > >  kernel/sched/fair.c     | 49 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  kernel/sched/features.h |  2 ++
> > >  kernel/sched/sched.h    |  1 +
> > >  4 files changed, 64 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > > index 1b214e10c25d..4b8534abdf4f 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > > @@ -1229,6 +1229,18 @@ bool sched_can_stop_tick(struct rq *rq)
> > >  	if (rq->nr_running > 1)
> > >  		return false;
> > >  
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * If there is one task and it has CFS runtime bandwidth constraints
> > > +	 * and it's on the cpu now we don't want to stop the tick.
> > > +	 * This check prevents clearing the bit if a newly enqueued task here is
> > > +	 * dequeued by migrating while the constrained task continues to run.
> > > +	 * E.g. going from 2->1 without going through pick_next_task().
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (sched_feat(HZ_BW) && rq->nr_running == 1 && task_on_rq_queued(rq->curr)) {
> > > +		if (cfs_task_bw_constrained(rq->curr))
> > > +			return false;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > 
> > I think we still need the fair_sched_class check with the bit being on
> > cfs_rq/tg rather than task.
> > 
> 
> Is there a way a non-fair_sched_class task will be in a cfs_rq with
> cfs_rq->runtime_enabled and/or cfs_b->hierarchical_quota set to non
> RUNTIME_INF?  I suppose if they are stale and it's had its class changed?
> 
> That makes the condition pretty ugly but I can add that back if needed.
> 

Sigh, yeah. I took that out when I had the bit in the task. I'll put it
back in...



Cheers,
Phil

> 
> Thanks,
> Phil
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 

-- 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-11 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-07 19:57 [PATCH v5 0/2] Fix nohz_full vs cfs bandwidth Phil Auld
2023-07-07 19:57 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] sched, cgroup: Restore meaning to hierarchical_quota Phil Auld
2023-07-10 20:17   ` Tejun Heo
2023-07-10 21:04     ` Phil Auld
2023-07-11  0:00   ` Benjamin Segall
2023-07-11 13:13     ` Phil Auld
2023-07-07 19:57 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] Sched/fair: Block nohz tick_stop when cfs bandwidth in use Phil Auld
2023-07-10 23:54   ` Benjamin Segall
2023-07-11 13:10     ` Phil Auld
2023-07-11 14:12       ` Phil Auld [this message]
2023-07-11 22:07         ` Benjamin Segall
2023-07-11 22:22           ` Phil Auld

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