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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, patches@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, shuah@kernel.org,
	patches@kernelci.org, lkft-triage@lists.linaro.org,
	pavel@denx.de, jonathanh@nvidia.com, f.fainelli@gmail.com,
	sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com, srw@sladewatkins.net, rwarsow@gmx.de,
	conor@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5.15 00/92] 5.15.126-rc1 review
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 22:14:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230810221416.GB562211@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230810215416.GA562211@google.com>

On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 09:54:16PM +0000, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 10:55:16AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 02:45:44PM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > On 8/9/23 13:39, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 4:38 PM Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 8/9/23 13:14, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 12:25:48PM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 02:35:59PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 12:18 PM Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On 8/9/23 06:53, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 12:40:36PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > This is the start of the stable review cycle for the 5.15.126 release.
> > > > > > > > > > > There are 92 patches in this series, all will be posted as a response
> > > > > > > > > > > to this one.  If anyone has any issues with these being applied, please
> > > > > > > > > > > let me know.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Responses should be made by Fri, 11 Aug 2023 10:36:10 +0000.
> > > > > > > > > > > Anything received after that time might be too late.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > The whole patch series can be found in one patch at:
> > > > > > > > > > >        https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v5.x/stable-review/patch-5.15.126-rc1.gz
> > > > > > > > > > > or in the git tree and branch at:
> > > > > > > > > > >        git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable-rc.git linux-5.15.y
> > > > > > > > > > > and the diffstat can be found below.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Not necesscarily new with 5.15 stable but 3 of the 19 rcutorture scenarios
> > > > > > > > > > hang with this -rc: TREE04, TREE07, TASKS03.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 5.15 has a known stop machine issue where it hangs after 1.5 hours with cpu
> > > > > > > > > > hotplug rcutorture testing. Me and tglx are continuing to debug this. The
> > > > > > > > > > issue does not show up on anything but 5.15 stable kernels and neither on
> > > > > > > > > > mainline.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Do you by any have a crash pattern that we could possibly use to find the crash
> > > > > > > > > in ChromeOS crash logs ? No idea if that would help, but it could provide some
> > > > > > > > > additional data points.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The pattern shows as a hard hang, the system is unresponsive and all CPUs
> > > > > > > > are stuck in stop_machine. Sometimes it recovers on its own from the
> > > > > > > > hang and then RCU immediately gives stall warnings. It takes 1.5 hour
> > > > > > > > to reproduce and sometimes never happens for several hours.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > It appears related to CPU hotplug since gdb showed me most of the CPUs
> > > > > > > > are spinning in multi_cpu_stop() / stop machine after the hang.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hmm, we do see lots of soft lockups with multi_cpu_stop() in the backtrace,
> > > > > > > but not with v5.15.y but with v5.4.y. The actual hang is in stop_machine_yield().
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Interesting. It looks similar as far as the stack dump in gdb goes, here are
> > > > > > the stacks I dumped with the hang I referred to:
> > > > > > https://paste.debian.net/1288308/
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > That link gives me "Entry not found".
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah that was weird. Here it is again: https://pastebin.com/raw/L3nv1kH2
> > > 
> > > I found a couple of crash reports from chromeos-5.10, one of them complaining
> > > about RCU issues. I sent you links via IM. Nothing from 5.15 or later, though.
> > 
> > Is the crash showing the eternally refiring timer fixed by this commit?
> > 
> > 53e87e3cdc15 ("timers/nohz: Last resort update jiffies on nohz_full IRQ entry")
> 
> Ah I was just replying, I have been seeing really good results after applying
> the following 3 commits since yesterday:
> 
> 53e87e3cdc15 ("timers/nohz: Last resort update jiffies on nohz_full IRQ entry")
> 5417ddc1cf1f ("timers/nohz: Switch to ONESHOT_STOPPED in the low-res handler when the tick is stopped")
> a1ff03cd6fb9 ("tick: Detect and fix jiffies update stall")
> 
> 5417ddc1cf1f also mentioned a "tick storm" which is exactly what I was
> seeing.
> 
> I did a lengthy test and everything is looking good. I'll send these out to
> the stable list.

I just read your post for the first time. And just to humor you about my
debugging which was very similar to yours, I got as far as this statement in
your post (before looking for fixes in timer code):
<quote>
Further checking showed that the stuck CPU was in fact suffering from an
interrupt storm, namely an interrupt storm of scheduling-clock interrupts.
This spurred another code-inspection session.
</quote>

My detection of this came from gdb, within that 2000 second stall, I broke
into the VM with --gdb and kept dumping the stuck CPU's stack with "thread X"
and "bt". I noticed that it was always in the timer interrupt. Here were the
stacks: https://pastebin.com/raw/L3nv1kH2

Then I narrowed my search down to timer events by enabling
boot options ftrace_dump_on_oops and panic-on-stall ones, and noticed a storm
of hrtimer_start coming out of the long stall. I was all but certain it was a
tick storm and noticed it kept programming hrtimer to the same event.

Ah, then I just did a "git diff" in kernel/time/ between v5.15 and v6.1 and
noticed the missing patches. ;-)

Though in my experience, I wasn't seeing a KTIME_MAX-type of value like you
mentioned in the post. What I noticed is that the tick was never stopped, it
just kept firing a bit earlier than was requested and in the interrupt exit
path (of the delivered-too-early timer interrupt), it kept re-requesting the
tick.

thanks,

 - Joel


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-10 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-09 10:40 [PATCH 5.15 00/92] 5.15.126-rc1 review Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-08-09 13:53 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-08-09 16:18   ` Guenter Roeck
2023-08-09 18:35     ` Joel Fernandes
2023-08-09 18:39       ` Joel Fernandes
2023-08-09 19:25       ` Guenter Roeck
2023-08-09 20:14         ` Joel Fernandes
2023-08-09 20:38           ` Guenter Roeck
2023-08-09 20:39             ` Joel Fernandes
2023-08-09 21:45               ` Guenter Roeck
2023-08-10 17:55                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-08-10 21:54                   ` Joel Fernandes
2023-08-10 22:14                     ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2023-08-10 22:34                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-08-10 22:55                     ` Guenter Roeck
2023-08-10 23:13                       ` Joel Fernandes
2023-08-09 17:05 ` SeongJae Park
2023-08-09 19:38 ` Florian Fainelli
2023-08-10 10:16 ` Harshit Mogalapalli
2023-08-10 10:25   ` Guenter Roeck
2023-08-10 10:24 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-08-10 16:25   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-08-11 10:02     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-08-10 16:06 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-08-11 10:05   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-08-10 21:11 ` Ron Economos
2023-08-10 21:54 ` Daniel Díaz

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