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From: Sebastian Wick <sebastian.wick@redhat.com>
To: "André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pierre-eric.pelloux-prayer@amd.com,
	"Randy Dunlap" <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	"'Marek Olšák'" <maraeo@gmail.com>,
	"Michel Dänzer" <michel.daenzer@mailbox.org>,
	"Timur Kristóf" <timur.kristof@gmail.com>,
	"Pekka Paalanen" <ppaalanen@gmail.com>,
	"Samuel Pitoiset" <samuel.pitoiset@gmail.com>,
	kernel-dev@igalia.com, alexander.deucher@amd.com,
	christian.koenig@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] drm/doc: Document DRM device reset expectations
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 12:26:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230822102614.GB110557@toolbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230818200642.276735-1-andrealmeid@igalia.com>

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 05:06:42PM -0300, André Almeida wrote:
> Create a section that specifies how to deal with DRM device resets for
> kernel and userspace drivers.
> 
> Signed-off-by: André Almeida <andrealmeid@igalia.com>
> 
> ---
> 
> v7 changes:
>  - s/application/graphical API contex/ in the robustness part (Michel)
>  - Grammar fixes (Randy)
> 
> v6: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230815185710.159779-1-andrealmeid@igalia.com/
> 
> v6 changes:
>  - Due to substantial changes in the content, dropped Pekka's Acked-by
>  - Grammar fixes (Randy)
>  - Add paragraph about disabling device resets
>  - Add note about integrating reset tracking in drm/sched
>  - Add note that KMD should return failure for contexts affected by
>    resets and UMD should check for this
>  - Add note about lack of consensus around what to do about non-robust
>    apps
> 
> v5: https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20230627132323.115440-1-andrealmeid@igalia.com/
> ---
>  Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst | 77 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 77 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst b/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst
> index 65fb3036a580..3694bdb977f5 100644
> --- a/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst
> @@ -285,6 +285,83 @@ for GPU1 and GPU2 from different vendors, and a third handler for
>  mmapped regular files. Threads cause additional pain with signal
>  handling as well.
>  
> +Device reset
> +============
> +
> +The GPU stack is really complex and is prone to errors, from hardware bugs,
> +faulty applications and everything in between the many layers. Some errors
> +require resetting the device in order to make the device usable again. This
> +section describes the expectations for DRM and usermode drivers when a
> +device resets and how to propagate the reset status.
> +
> +Device resets can not be disabled without tainting the kernel, which can lead to
> +hanging the entire kernel through shrinkers/mmu_notifiers. Userspace role in
> +device resets is to propagate the message to the application and apply any
> +special policy for blocking guilty applications, if any. Corollary is that
> +debugging a hung GPU context require hardware support to be able to preempt such
> +a GPU context while it's stopped.
> +
> +Kernel Mode Driver
> +------------------
> +
> +The KMD is responsible for checking if the device needs a reset, and to perform
> +it as needed. Usually a hang is detected when a job gets stuck executing. KMD
> +should keep track of resets, because userspace can query any time about the
> +reset status for a specific context. This is needed to propagate to the rest of
> +the stack that a reset has happened. Currently, this is implemented by each
> +driver separately, with no common DRM interface. Ideally this should be properly
> +integrated at DRM scheduler to provide a common ground for all drivers. After a
> +reset, KMD should reject new command submissions for affected contexts.
> +
> +User Mode Driver
> +----------------
> +
> +After command submission, UMD should check if the submission was accepted or
> +rejected. After a reset, KMD should reject submissions, and UMD can issue an
> +ioctl to the KMD to check the reset status, and this can be checked more often
> +if the UMD requires it. After detecting a reset, UMD will then proceed to report
> +it to the application using the appropriate API error code, as explained in the
> +section below about robustness.
> +
> +Robustness
> +----------
> +
> +The only way to try to keep a graphical API context working after a reset is if
> +it complies with the robustness aspects of the graphical API that it is using.
> +
> +Graphical APIs provide ways to applications to deal with device resets. However,
> +there is no guarantee that the app will use such features correctly, and a
> +userspace that doesn't support robust interfaces (like a non-robust
> +OpenGL context or API without any robustness support like libva) leave the
> +robustness handling entirely to the userspace driver. There is no strong
> +community consensus on what the userspace driver should do in that case,
> +since all reasonable approaches have some clear downsides.
> +
> +OpenGL
> +~~~~~~
> +
> +Apps using OpenGL should use the available robust interfaces, like the
> +extension ``GL_ARB_robustness`` (or ``GL_EXT_robustness`` for OpenGL ES). This
> +interface tells if a reset has happened, and if so, all the context state is
> +considered lost and the app proceeds by creating new ones. There's no consensus
> +on what to do to if robustness is not in use.
> +
> +Vulkan
> +~~~~~~
> +
> +Apps using Vulkan should check for ``VK_ERROR_DEVICE_LOST`` for submissions.
> +This error code means, among other things, that a device reset has happened and
> +it needs to recreate the contexts to keep going.
> +
> +Reporting causes of resets
> +--------------------------
> +
> +Apart from propagating the reset through the stack so apps can recover, it's
> +really useful for driver developers to learn more about what caused the reset in
> +the first place. DRM devices should make use of devcoredump to store relevant
> +information about the reset, so this information can be added to user bug
> +reports.
> +
>  .. _drm_driver_ioctl:
>  
>  IOCTL Support on Device Nodes

Acked-by: Sebastian Wick <sebastian.wick@redhat.com>

> -- 
> 2.41.0
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-22 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-18 20:06 [PATCH v7] drm/doc: Document DRM device reset expectations André Almeida
2023-08-22 10:26 ` Sebastian Wick [this message]
2023-08-23 17:31 ` Rodrigo Vivi
2023-08-23 18:07   ` André Almeida
2023-08-24 11:30 ` Pekka Paalanen

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