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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, acme@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com,
	jolsa@kernel.org, namhyung@kernel.org, irogers@google.com,
	adrian.hunter@intel.com, ak@linux.intel.com, eranian@google.com,
	alexey.v.bayduraev@linux.intel.com, tinghao.zhang@intel.com,
	Sandipan Das <sandipan.das@amd.com>,
	Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>,
	Athira Rajeev <atrajeev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH V3 1/6] perf: Add branch stack extra
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 12:27:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231003102733.GC1539@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed169d4d-76d5-c134-c685-ad3d812028be@linux.intel.com>

On Mon, Oct 02, 2023 at 08:57:57PM -0400, Liang, Kan wrote:

> > Did I already say that the ISE document raises more questions than it
> > provides answers?
> 
> Yes. Would an improved CPUID enumeration can address the questions? For
> example, the CPUID enumeration can give the maximum number of counters
> and supported width? I think we can discuss it with the architect.

So.. no. Suppose another arch goes and does the same, but with a
different number and width of counters. They won't have CPUID.

I'm thinking we should do something like expose branch_counter_nr and
branch_counter_width in the sysfs node, and then rename this extra field
to counters.

Then userspace can do something like:

	for (i = 0; i < branch_counter_nr; i++) {
		counter[i] = counters & ((1 << branch_counter_width) - 1);
		counters >>= branch_counter_width;
	}

to extract the actual counter values.


So then we end up with:

         *      { u64                   nr;
         *        { u64 hw_idx; } && PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_HW_INDEX
         *        { u64 from, to, flags } lbr[nr];
+        *        { u64 counters; } cntr[nr] && PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_COUNTERS
         *      } && PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_STACK

Have it explicitly named counters, have only the one flag and have sysfs
files describe how to decode it.

Then for this Intel thing we have 4 counters of 2 bits, but if someone
else were to do something different (both Power and ARM64 have this
branch stack stuff now) they can describe it.

It is a bit wasteful on bits... but at least its clear I suppose.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-03 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-11 15:48 [RESEND PATCH V3 1/6] perf: Add branch stack extra kan.liang
2023-09-11 15:48 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 2/6] perf/x86: Add PERF_X86_EVENT_NEEDS_BRANCH_STACK flag kan.liang
2023-09-11 15:48 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 3/6] perf: Add branch_sample_call_stack kan.liang
2023-09-11 15:48 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 4/6] perf/x86/intel: Support LBR event logging kan.liang
2023-09-11 15:48 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 5/6] tools headers UAPI: Sync include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h header with the kernel kan.liang
2023-09-11 15:48 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 6/6] perf tools: Add branch event knob kan.liang
2023-10-02 13:49 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 1/6] perf: Add branch stack extra Liang, Kan
2023-10-02 15:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-02 19:19   ` Liang, Kan
2023-10-02 21:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-03  0:57       ` Liang, Kan
2023-10-03 10:27         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-10-03 12:57           ` Liang, Kan
2023-10-03 15:06           ` Andi Kleen
2023-10-03 15:58             ` Liang, Kan
2023-10-03 16:33             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-03 16:55               ` Andi Kleen

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